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Originally Posted By unforgetabledal >>Golden Dreams was very EPCOT-y. If California were one of the nations in World Showcase it would fit right in.<< Well it's gone now, and to many of us we could not be more happy.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 <Well it's gone now, and to many of us we could not be more happy. > Enjoy the loss of an attraction. To me, the only problem with it was putting it in too large a theatre. DLR theatre attractions tend to lose audiences after a while, and that's even true of more elaborate productions, let alone a simple film with little else going on. But as one attraction of many in a "welcome center" (which is what I think the Cathay Circle should have been) in a smaller theatre (maybe the size of Turtle Talk), it could still work.
Originally Posted By unforgetabledal >>Enjoy the loss of an attraction.<< So few went to see it after a time, so it will not be missed much, if at all.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 It was in too large a venue. But many people here have said the liked it. Eventually all theatre presentations get old and "won't be missed" - Captain Eo, for me, after the first buzz of excitement in the 80's, ran its course pretty quickly. It was essentially a long music video with some 3D effects. By the time it went away, most were more than ready for it. Put Golden Dreams in a TT-size theatre, though, as one of a suite of attractions in a "Welcome to CA center" and it makes sense.
Originally Posted By unforgetabledal >>Eventually all theatre presentations get old and "won't be missed" - Captain Eo, for me<< That we agree on, went to Eo last time and said wow that needs to go away again and fast! Good idea about a California wellcome center, but just want Golden dreams to to with Eo to outer space never to return!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Well, you're getting your wish, apparently. But had they done the welcome center, it would have slotted in nicely there.
Originally Posted By unforgetabledal >>Well, you're getting your wish, apparently.<< I got one wish this year that came true! Hey DaBob2....I really like DCA, do you think i'm crazy or are the ones that hate it right?
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "And I think Golden Dreams is just another reason the park hurt the Disney brand. We go to Disney parks for a fun time, and most people have no interest in seeing any negative portrayals of America when the walk through those gates. Again, let us just leave the World Behind." So when Walt based a whole land on a historical time of the country (Frontierland), did that count as leaving the World Behind? Having an attraction that covers the history of this state is actually offensive to you?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>I really just don't get what that has to do with a Disney park where we leave the World behind?<< They're just letting California in. : )
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I guess when I go to Disney park I am there to leave this world behind (Kind of what Walt had in mind). I don't want to see the real world of people being mistreated now, or abused a hundred and fifty years ago. I see that everyday on the news, and don't want to pay to see it in a Disney park." Hmmmm.... The "Two Brothers" segment of Great Moments With Mr Lincoln (and the seriousness of the message in his address) comes to mind along with several different dramatic segments of The American Adventure at EPCOT. Not everything at Disney Parks is supposed to be sunshine and rainbows.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 < Hey DaBob2....I really like DCA, do you think i'm crazy or are the ones that hate it right?> No one's "right." Everyone has their opinion, and yours is as valid as any other.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo Any attraction I don't like: not very Disney Any attraction I like: very true to Walt's vision And I'll find Walt quotes to prove it!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>I think there's just something in the west coast expectations that precludes 'edutainment' as being a big draw at a Disney park, yet it's a huge part of the WDW experience.<< Maybe it is an age thing, but growing up Disney wa all about edutainment in Main Street, Frontierland and Tomorrowland. I see the late 80's early 90's as being the move away from that starting with Splash Mountain, Toontown and Fantasmic.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>>>Golden Dreams was very EPCOT-y. If California were one of the nations in World Showcase it would fit right in.<< Well it's gone now, and to many of us we could not be more happy. <<< Funny, after Soarin', Golden Dreams was my 2nd fav attraction at DCA. I used to go to Disney parks to engage my mind in a fun way. I don't give a squat about TSMM, the Little Mermaid Dark Ride nor half of Carsland.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Maybe it is an age thing, but growing up Disney wa all about edutainment in Main Street, Frontierland and Tomorrowland. I see the late 80's early 90's as being the move away from that starting with Splash Mountain, Toontown and Fantasmic." Space Mountain and Big Thunder Mountain would have to be the start.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I'd go back even further and say that the Country Bears were a marked change in direction from what was there before (The Indian Village). Actually, come to think of it, The Enchanted Tiki Room is also a pure fantasy outing and it debuted in Adventureland less than ten years after the park opened.
Originally Posted By gadzuux 'Edutainment' can't be credited to disney, but they do a lot a mash-ups with words that I think are fun. I remember 'Tencennial', 'Environmentality', and 'Cinderellabration' come to mind, but there's tons of them from throughout a whole lotta years.
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>I guess when I go to Disney park I am there to leave this world behind (Kind of what Walt had in mind).<< You mean, like when he said, "Disneyland is dedicated to the ideals, the dreams and the hard facts that have created America?"
