Originally Posted By Skellington88 >I've also heard the figure $500 million thrown around for the entire rebranding and new attractions (not including Toy Story Mania and Block Party Bash that have already been budgeted in) ... I haven't been able to confirm that number yet, so take it as a semi-reliable rumor. < 500 million is a pretty decent amount...will we see a bigger Lucas presence? How about that Star Tours upgrade finally getting announced and a real indiana jones ride?
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << This was going to be Disney-Pixar Studios. I have no idea why the change, but I have my ideas. >> I know it's disappointing to all the internet rumor mongers who want people to believe they are somehow in the loop on all of these things when the final announcement turns out to be different from all of the online predictions.
Originally Posted By SFH Disney should expand their relationship with Lucas and create a whole Star Wars park, maybe in the mold of Busch's Discovery Cove, but a little more populist. Especially with Harry Potter coming to Islands of Adventure. SFH
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: Now, really, Sport Goofy, duckling; was your comment directed at anyone in particular around here? It should be well-known, by now, that Disney Management often plans to do something a certain way and then--without warning--changes its collective mind and throws everyone off balance by an announcement like this latest one. But that does not mean the insightful messengers around here were wrong to share what they had heard. This is why we have discussion boards to begin with; to vent speculations and to share information with others who have similar interests. It should also be understood, by now, that nothing is written in stone. With that in mind, we should be willing to forgive the occasional absense of total and complete accuracy in another duckling's prediction or speculation. Unless it can be proven that the messenger in question is deliberately trying to play misleading little games just for the sake of annoying us, my sisters and I say GIVE THEM A BREAK!
Originally Posted By Skellington88 >>I know it's disappointing to all the internet rumor mongers who want people to believe they are somehow in the loop on all of these things when the final announcement turns out to be different from all of the online predictions.<< Um...Spirit of 74 knows more about whats going on at Disney then more than half the company's employees do! The fact that Disney just registered the "Disney's Hollywood" names the other day clearly indicates that this was a quick almost overnight decision. Spirit said a new name and rebranding was coming and alot of other insiders were saying the same thing but the final name of the "new" park wasn't decided until just a few days ago. My guess is they were going to go with Disney-Pixar studios but backed off for a few reasons...mainly due to the fact that Lucas and Henson play a role in the park and may be having a larger role in the future and because of other attractions like Twilight Zone and Great Movie ride. Plus, i'm sure disney knows that alot of the disney fan community is alittle annoyed with the overexposure of pixar in the parks and that was possibly one of the many factors as well.
Originally Posted By Skellington88 Plus when you think about it...since Pixar was a subdivision of Lucasfilm it would be kind of wierd for Lucas to have his major film franchises within a park called "Pixar Studios". Would be like renaming Disneyland "Touchstone Pictures Land".
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I know it's disappointing to all the internet rumor mongers who want people to believe they are somehow in the loop on all of these things when the final announcement turns out to be different from all of the online predictions.>> Well, mj, I can't speak for everyone here, but I don't consider myself a 'rumor monger' ... I also can tell you that this was a very last-minute decision. If you can't see that from the way Disney waited to secure the domains, well, I don't know what I can tell you. And since the plan was to go with Disney-Pixar, one might wonder why it was changed as the clock was about to strike midnight. I have two words as to why I believe (and no, I don't know this as 100% fact, but being an 'insider' and all, I have a good idea) this didn't happen. Those two words are: George Lucas.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<500 million is a pretty decent amount...will we see a bigger Lucas presence? How about that Star Tours upgrade finally getting announced and a real indiana jones ride?>> Yes ... yes ... and I'm not sure, but it is a distinct possibility.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN We may see it first at TDL I've heard, since TDL's Star Tours attraction is a Ghost Town. And anyone can see the lines Jack Sparrow has created at TDL's POTC ride.
Originally Posted By JeffG >> "Well, mj, I can't speak for everyone here, but I don't consider myself a 'rumor monger' ... " << You pretty regularly anonymously post rumors on discussion boards. That clearly fits the definition of "rumor monger". >> "If you can't see that from the way Disney waited to secure the domains, well, I don't know what I can tell you." << What a silly point. Registering domains is public information, which would make it a pretty sure way of tipping the rumor mill off to a piece of information that they preferred to keep under wraps. There really is no strong motivator to register the domains any earlier since the inclusion of the Disney trademark would allow them to easily take ownership from anyone that beat them to the registration. -Jeff
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy >> Registering domains is public information, which would make it a pretty sure way of tipping the rumor mill off to a piece of information that they preferred to keep under wraps. There really is no strong motivator to register the domains any earlier since the inclusion of the Disney trademark would allow them to easily take ownership from anyone that beat them to the registration. << A great point.
Originally Posted By ssWEDguy It's just that the term "rumor monger" sounds so delicious. It just rolls off the tongue.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORDDU: My sisters and I believe that many of us owe a great deal of thanks to Spirit of 74, along with anyone else within the Laughing Place Pond, who dares to share what they've heard--regardless as to whether or not the things they have to say ever come true or not. It gives everyone here a chance to offer an opinion or to speculate and there's no harm in that--as long as there's no deliberate attempt to mislead Doobie's ducklings just for the sake of misleading. After all, is this not a place for good fellowship among ducklings who are friends? No need for petty jealousies or unkind words which end up hurting someone. Just be glad there is a forum around to discuss such things.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<You pretty regularly anonymously post rumors on discussion boards. That clearly fits the definition of "rumor monger".>> Oh, my buddy Jeff comes in for a drive-by! I don't, for the most part, post rumors at all (and when I do, I label them as such). I tend to post facts that Disney just hasn't seen fit to release to the general public yet, along with my opinions. I'll let my track record speak for itself as to whether my information has been good or not. As to being anonymous, well, we all are here, aren't we? Now, I well know that some in power at Disney know exactly who I am, and I'm cool with that. But I have no desire to put my personal info out on a message board to the world. If you'd like to, go right ahead. >> "If you can't see that from the way Disney waited to secure the domains, well, I don't know what I can tell you." << <<What a silly point. Registering domains is public information, which would make it a pretty sure way of tipping the rumor mill off to a piece of information that they preferred to keep under wraps. There really is no strong motivator to register the domains any earlier since the inclusion of the Disney trademark would allow them to easily take ownership from anyone that beat them to the registration.>> I'm just a silly wittle Spirit, Jeff. And whether you want to dispute my post or not, Disney's history and SOP speaks to them registering domains months and years in advance ... often for projects that never get off the ground or simply to keep others from them. I sincerely doubt Disney suddenly did an about face just because they were afraid they'd tip folks off about the name-change and it might appear on some online blog ... it's just not that significant. When I add that to the fact that many high up the food chain in Glendale and Burbank had never heard of this as a possible rebranding, it sounds to me like something thrown together at the last minute by Michael Mendenhall and his team.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<It's just that the term "rumor monger" sounds so delicious. It just rolls off the tongue.>> I've been called much worse by much more significant spirits in the past ;-)
Originally Posted By Sport Goofy << When I add that to the fact that many high up the food chain in Glendale and Burbank had never heard of this as a possible rebranding, it sounds to me like something thrown together at the last minute by Michael Mendenhall and his team. >> Or maybe those higher ups are starting to get a bit of culture infusion from the Pixar-Apple teams that know how to keep secrets in their product development groups. It's wouldn't be surprising at all to see a lot better control of information coming out of the Disney dream factories.
Originally Posted By MPierce If it weren't for rumors we wouldn't have much to talk about here would we. I'm pretty sure most everyone is familar with Disney starting in one direction, and doing an about face. I don't think you can really call a person a rumor monger unless they intentionally try to mislead people or just flat make things up. Now I don't think Spirit needs me to defend him, but I've always found his inside knowledge to be excellent. I may not always agree with his opinions, however I think everything he saids is delivered in an honest, and informed manner. I've also notice that he states if it's his opinion, not a sure thing. I appreciate anyone who adds to a topic in an intelligent way.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Spirit has always been the first one to predit what will happen at WDW... and for that track record, I respect him greatly and his words are to be trusted, even if you do or do not agree with his personal take on things... a right we all have here.
