Originally Posted By danyoung >Now the commercials (which this most certainly is) are all about Disney. In a way it's kind of disgusting.< Dr. Hans, I gotta agree with you on this one. Although I'll say it again - the mono's do look kinda cool.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance That's true it does look like a bus now. At least it's not permanent.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I agree danyoung that at least they did a nice job with the design.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Very different. It's a sequel. The original was done in the early 80's and was one of the very first films to use CGI. It was also popular enough to have a segment of the Peoplemover dedicated to it.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I know it's different, I was just trying to be cheeky. But I haven't ever heard of the original Tron movie, and the new one looks exactly like the Ironman movie to me. I guess I'm just a bit tired of movies like that.
Originally Posted By believe >>>>>Yes, Josh, Disney films have always gone hand in hand with the parks, but in the past it was a bit more subtle. The most blatant ads in the old days were mostly for sponsors who helped fund the attractions. Now the commercials (which this most certainly is) are all about Disney. In a way it's kind of disgusting<<<<< Wasn't Tiana's Showboat Jubilee and obvious commercial too - for a movie? Actually, just about every movie that came out, they'll have characters come out, ie UP, Cars, Toy Story, etc. The characters come out right before the movie premieres.
Originally Posted By believe >>>>But I haven't ever heard of the original Tron movie, and the new one looks exactly like the Ironman movie to me. <<<< Are you saying that Ironman looks so much like Tron? (you could also say that Avatar is so much like Pocahontas) Tron came out in 1982. I don't think you were born yet... It was the first full length CGI movie mixed with live action. The movie was just ok, could have easily been better. Had so much potential though. Hopefully Tron 2 will make up for it.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I guess it is because I'm a girl, lol. I like my share of movies like that, but after a while they all start looking the same to me.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Wasn't Tiana's Showboat Jubilee and obvious commercial too - for a movie?" I complained about that too. Look, I'm not saying that this is anything new, just that the amount of Disney promoting Disney at the parks - versus providing entertainment and attractions about the parks' various themes - has reached a saturation point for me. The level at which they are doing this now is unprecedented.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I like my share of movies like that, but after a while they all start looking the same to me." Hopefully you understand my irritation with all the Princess and Pixar stuff that they keep putting in the parks these days. It all starts to look and feel the same to me.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I can understand how someone would feel that way, sure I can. I'm reasonable
Originally Posted By mousermerf We do all realize these trains are at and will be at Walt Disney World, right?
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance But I love the Princess and Pixar movies and when you add the fact that my kids love seeing the characters at the park, it just doesn't bother me like it does you. And you know, in my opinion, given the fact that you can buy just about any item known to man with a Disney princess on it, in the theme parks, there really isn't a whole lot of representation of them as far as attractions go. I mean you have the meet and greets, sure, but aside from Snow White's Scary Adventure (which is a classic sure, but drastically needs an update or at the very least an ENDING!) there really isn't any other attraction based on them which is kind of surprising.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "But I love the Princess and Pixar movies and when you add the fact that my kids love seeing the characters at the park, it just doesn't bother me like it does you." And I love Tron and The Black Hole. And I loved them when I was a kid. Same thing. But to the point, I would probably be sick of them both if they had been exploited to the point that Pixar and the Princesses have been. It's the growing commercialization of the parks that I find annoying.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I kind of separate the over abundance of Pixar/Princess products from the movies/attractions themselves. No matter what movie it is you're going to have exploitation of it. It doesn't ruin the movies or attractions for me though. I just take it for what it is and move on.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance All the products are for kids. My kids love them and always ask for them for birthdays/christmas, etc, so to me, it's just kids stuff anyway.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "No matter what movie it is you're going to have exploitation of it. It doesn't ruin the movies or attractions for me though." No, it ruins the overall experience because the attractions are no longer about the themes (future, adventure, the frontier, California, etc.) but about some Disney brand that is being sold to you. That new skin on the WDW Monorail is the perfect example of what is wrong with Disney's mindset today. The last time I was at DLR the Pirates craze was in full swing. The amount of Pirates merchandise in the parks (not just NOS or Adventureland) was just overwhelming. All I could think about was how intrusive and commercial it all seemed.
