Originally Posted By Kidz-n-k9s <<We got there at 8:30. We finally got thru the gate at 9:30 and were only able to get one early ride accomplished>> Wow! That would annoy me too! I believe APs are supposed to have their own turnstile for EE, but doesn't sounds like that was helping. I hope Disney figures this out as I can see why folks would be angry!
Originally Posted By TinkerbellPatten > Why doesn't disney just ask for a drivers license or passport? That would be faster. The names are printed on the ticket with multiday passes. < I asked the gate CM why they are taking the photos with the handheld devices and she responded that #1: too many people are not bringing ID, (we witnessed some arguments taking place at turnstyles because of this, and supervisors had to be brought in), and #2: When people lose their ID cards they are wanting to hold Disney as liable for the ID card's loss. Bottom line: It seems like bringing an ID card would be a simple solution but it's not working. And taking people's photos was Ok for most folks but many were very not-ok with it. And explaining all the reasons why was slowing things down even more. People were already mad about the holdup, and then Disney was making them feel as if they were suspects in a fake-ticket/fraud situation. We were there for mm on Tuesday Jan. 8th at 8:30. All gates operating. Lineups for every gate went all the way to DCA gates and then doubled back more than halfway back to DL turnstyles again. My husband didn't bother with early entry, he arrived later to the park (about 10:30, normal park hours was opening at 10) and he got in with little to no wait because the rush had subsided by then. But mm was ruined for most everyone that day. I'm like most people and definitely willing to have my photo taken, but I still think there has got to be a better solution that would be faster.
Originally Posted By disneylandfan8 Do they have a separate entry for people with APs? They should. Why should people with APs have to stand in line with the multipass ticket people and wait when their AP photo will appear when their pass gets scanned? Maybe it should be another "benefit", kind of an "express lane".
Originally Posted By Kidz-n-k9s ^^APs are supposed to have a designated turnstile according to the website. I haven't gone myself, so I cannot confirm. From the website: "Annual Passholder Early Entry access will be at the Main Entrance to each park. Please look for the designated turnstile."
Originally Posted By karlg > We were there for mm on Tuesday Jan. 8th at 8:30. All gates operating. Lineups for every gate went all the way to DCA gates and then doubled back more than halfway back to DL turnstyles again. < Wow, January 8th is suppose to be the "off season." But I guess there are those that are still out of school/college. I did early entry at DL on January 10th (the next mm day for DL) and didn't encounter anything like what you described. I got there very close to 9AM and there were only about 6 people in any of the lines. I'm wondering if they if they improved things between the two days. I didn't find it slowing down anything at all since they did the picture taking while you were in line before the turnstile. They were ALSO requiring photo I.D. at the turnstile and this DID slow things down as the person had to fumble with getting their I.D. out or not having one. One thing I also found aggravating and always gets me is the person that after having their ticket scanned at the turnstile decides that this is a good time to have a lengthy question and answer session with the person at the turnstile. It would be nice if these people could be directed to some other cast member. It is amazing how some people take 10X longer than others to go through the turnstile area. I think one of the biggest advantages of a no-ticket taker system (ala the WDW wristbands) is that people will keep flowing rather than picking that time for a Q&A session.
Originally Posted By ksargen Wow - well, since I'm an AP, my entry shouldn't be a huge problem, but we're again going as a family, so I'll have passes for my husband and child. Once again, because we bought them online and printed them out, we'll be dealing with ID and redoing the passes to have the correct names on them. *sigh* I'll be sure to get us up and out EARLY for that 7am MM while we're there, because it's going to be a little while to get us through the gate!
Originally Posted By tashajilek "I asked the gate CM why they are taking the photos with the handheld devices and she responded that #1: too many people are not bringing ID, (we witnessed some arguments taking place at turnstyles because of this, and supervisors had to be brought in), and #2: When people lose their ID cards they are wanting to hold Disney as liable for the ID card's loss." I mentioned this in another thread and people thought i was crazy thinking people wouldnt have ID with them.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Dabob2, ah yes, the online ticket sellers. I'd forgotten about them. The guys in strip malls around the Resort must already be out of the business by now. But the Craigslist sellers? You're right, in that they're probably going. But I have no sympathy for anyone who buys Disneyland tickets on Craigslist. That's just plain stupid, and they deserve to lose their money. They're quite lucky to not have gotten mugged when they went to pick up the tickets, quite frankly.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Particularly so now that those who are still selling now-useless "split" hoppers are by definition completely unscupulous. (Some simply send by mail, though, so at least no mugging). But stupid (or uninformed) people exist, which means this business ain't out of business just yet, which was my point.
Originally Posted By just another guest They should put RFIDs in everything that is a Disney product (including tickets) and just watch, figure out the patterns, flag tickets that might be getting shared, resold, etc.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>They should put RFIDs in everything that is a Disney product (including tickets) and just watch, figure out the patterns, flag tickets that might be getting shared, resold, etc.<< A lot of software will need to be written, tested and debugged to do that, and that will cost a pretty penny. I really wonder how much revenue is Disney losing via ticket sharing.
Originally Posted By fkurucz ^^And besides, once that ticket sharer is in the park, s/he will buy meals, snacks, souvenirs, etc. Some things are not worth pursuing, IMO.
Originally Posted By Hats and Wands >>Annual Passholder Early Entry access will be at the Main Entrance to each park. Please look for the designated turnstile<< That doesn't help APers who are not coming during early entry. It took us about 10 extra minutes to get in on Friday night (only a few people in front of us) due to the group who needed their picture taken. Our friends who got there later then us had about 1/2 hour waits. In our case, after each person in the group had their picture taken, they got back in line right where they were (as a group) which backed up the rest of us. If they had been sent to the end of the line, or even just been put into the line, as they finished their picture, the line could have kept moving istead of being held up until they were done. Disneyland needs to go back to the old way of doing AP entrys by designating gates just for us, until they find another way to handle the multi-day tickets. The APers don't have to wait for pictures, finding driver licenses, etc. Our picture flashes on screen & we're good to go.
Originally Posted By phruby So what if a group of Mayans visit Disneyland with multi-day tickets. Disney wants to take their picture. They refuse because they believe that cameras steal your soul. Word gets out that Disney wants to steal you soul. Disney is then forced to stop the practice.
Originally Posted By SuperDry The Mayans would be turned back at the port of entry into the United States, when they refused to have their pictures taken by DHS. Plus, they'd not be able to get a passport in the first place without having their picture taken.
Originally Posted By mickeymorris1234 I understand that Disney wants to protect itself from the very lucrative craigslist and other sites reselling their tickets but why don't they just do at Universal Studios Hollywood and Sea World San Diego, they all use finger print readers. Your finger is your ticket, you just scan it and it lets you in. Can't really fudge that.
Originally Posted By ADMIN <font color="#FF0000">Message removed by an administrator. <a href="MsgBoard-Rules.asp" target="_blank">Click here</a> for the LaughingPlace.com Community Standards.</font>
Originally Posted By ADMIN <font color="#FF0000">Message removed by an administrator. <a href="MsgBoard-Rules.asp" target="_blank">Click here</a> for the LaughingPlace.com Community Standards.</font>
