Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Well EPCOT isn't in the middle of a developed urban area either.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Epcot is also 3,000 miles away. It also didn't exist when the Disneyland parking lot used to gridlock at closing time for the first few decades.
Originally Posted By mousermerf I think in hindsight building Epcot and DCA 3000 miles apart was a good marketing move..
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I think this might be the first thread I've read that seems to come to the definitive conclusion that the old parking lot was, in fact, worse than DCA. How the times have changed...
Originally Posted By TP2000 You are right FerretAfros. Especially for someone like me, who has always been willing to criticize DCA from the very beginning, this is a turning point. I do admit the park has improved a good deal since 2001 (in fits and starts), and with all the massive construction going on now for major new E Tickets and upgrades and new shows, it's looking very good for this new decade.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I think this might be the first thread I've read that seems to come to the definitive conclusion that the old parking lot was, in fact, worse than DCA. >>> I still don't think we've yet established which is more profitable.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I would say that between the old parking lot and DCA, the Mickey and Friends structure would probably win. At $12 per car per day (or is it more now, again?), I just can't see how they could come up with any other venture that could possibly separate folks from their money more quickly or easily...
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<At $12 per car per day (or is it more now, again?>> I believe it is now $14.00 <<But how many people actually pay for parking?>> Most everyone? The only ones who don't pay are PAP holders. All other AP holders have to pay $79.00 if they want a parking add-on, or $12.00 a pop like everyone else if they don't.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt mousermerf please. You can't seriously be trying to argue that the old parking lot was more profitable than the operations that currently occupy that space.
Originally Posted By mousermerf No, i just liked parking closer to Disneyland. I find DCA relatively useless.
Originally Posted By TP2000 Now I can make fun of DCA with the best of 'em (since the late 1990's), but even I wouldn't suggest the old parking lot was more succesful financially. Just the first floor of rooms at the Grand Californian (roughly the Eeyore, Kanga, Flower and King Louie sections of the lot on my old map) brings in more cash than charging 14 bucks a car in the whole lot ever would have. Especially considering they were only charging 7 bucks a car when they closed those sections to build the hotel. DCA isn't my all time favorite Disney parks ever, but I can now think of a few other Disney parks I would easily choose DCA over to spend the day at. And I've been to all of 'em except one.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones The plan is to connect the Resort Area to ARTIC (Anaheim Regional Transportation Intermodal Center) at Anaheim Stadium via monorail. ARTIC would serve high speed rail, Metrolink, Amtrak and buses. I created a map showing the currently proposed route in red and my own proposal, a rapid bus route, in blue. Click on the icons to see what's going on. <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&msa=0&msid=111791154239862255567.000479e36cf92ac35486a&ll=33.807964,-117.89712&spn=0.040722,0.090895&z=14" target="_blank">http://maps.google.com/maps/ms...895&z=14</a> I think the monorail idea is a waste of money and doesn't really work that well in providing good transit to the Resort Area. I think the money would be better spent on a rapid bus route that would not only benefit Disneyland guests, but also the everyday working-class citizens of North Orange County, many of whom work at Disneyland.
Originally Posted By SFH It isn't just parking for the day, or for a trip to DTD. The 15-minute parking area, which I will never again attempts to use for dropping people off, is a mess. It takes 30 minutes to drive down Harbor Boulevard some days, and then when you get to 15-minute parking, there's not a small chance that you'll find that Anaheim PD has blocked the lot. Supposedly they have to do this (close the lot for 30 minutes and more) to write tickets. Why they can't chalk tires and write tickets with the lot open, I don't know. Why they can't let me in to slip into one of the many open slots to spend three minutes dropping a couple of people off, I don't know. I've asked an officer why the lot closes. He told me to talk to Disney. I asked Disney why the lot closes. Disney says the lot is City of Anaheim property (really?!?). FORGET IT.
