Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance People don't spend money on themselves anymore, it's all spent on the kids. I can't remember the last time I bought myself anything (aside from the money I get as gifts).
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Sadly so. Disney used to be very adventurous and cool. Most of what they have made in the last 10 years is pretty fey and yawn producing.<< Yup, which is why we haven't swung by for the last two years. Maybe once the DCA upgrade is complete.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I'm tellin ya, kids are where the moneys at now a days.<< Given the huge numbers of childless couples I've sen at DLR I'm not so sure about that. A few years ago my wife bought me a pretty cool Disneyland jacket.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Yes, but I'm sure the vast majority of people who visit come with kids.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Maybe, but I saw a statistic back in the 80's that said adult visitors to DL outnumbered children 4 to 1. I wonder if that is still true.
Originally Posted By believe >>>> I really think Disney is missing the boat by not appealing more to males<<<< Actually, meeting the fairies is nice. Too bad so many kids around.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance "Maybe, but I saw a statistic back in the 80's that said adult visitors to DL outnumbered children 4 to 1. I wonder if that is still true." I would bet that it's not true which is why things are more centered around kids now. But even if there were more adults per each kid, I would bet that's less about people coming without kids and more because parents/grandparents, uncles, aunts, etc all come to Disneyland for that one kid or two in their life. And probably wouldn't take that trip without the kid(s). I'd think this would be especially true for out of town visitors. APers might be more adults though.
Originally Posted By gadzuux Their attempts to pander to boys have been pretty anemic lately - pirates and darth vader. Yeah - that's fresh. RCR will be a guy magnet when it opens. And for my money 'Bolt' was a great movie for us X/Y guys.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>Actually, all they would have to do is give Tomorrowland some balls like it once had and it would be fine.<< <a href="http://images.travelpod.com/users/alvrez/usa-2007.1193723820.kids-with-water-ball-fountain-in-tomorrowland.jpg" target="_blank">http://images.travelpod.com/us...land.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By believe >>>>Their attempts to pander to boys have been pretty anemic lately - pirates and darth vader. Yeah - that's fresh. <<<< How about Captain EO? But seriously, men love Pixie Hollow and meeting the skimpily dressed fairies...
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "But seriously, men love Pixie Hollow and meeting the skimpily dressed fairies..." Yeah, but for the wrong reasons and because they are bored with just about everything else. I read somewhere that one of the reasons why Disney and OLC went with the adventure theme for DisneySea is because the ratio of guests at TDL is overwhelmingly female. The concept behind the second gate was an attempt to grow the resort's male audience in one fell swoop.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance Hey! That link is the picture of that ball I was talking about before. Isn't that there anymore and what was it called?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I'm not sure if it has a name these days, but it was originally a part of Cosmic Waves, which was basically a walk in fountain with the ball at the center. They recently (sometime in the last 12 months) replaced the rubber-ey flooring around the ball with planters and benches, making a nice little spot to relax, with the ball in the center.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Tomorrowland reminds of our society today. Don't have the will or the money to move forward .. so we just keep recycling all the old bits over and over again.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>Tomorrowland reminds of our society today. Don't have the will or the money to move forward .. so we just keep recycling all the old bits over and over again.<< I just read that the Orion project is being cancelled. I guess we can look forward to India and China landing astronauts on the moon, and then Mars. Meanwhile we won't even have a way to put our own astronauts into orbit once the shuttles are retired.
