Originally Posted By tashajilek I have been February and it was chilly and raining a few days. I agree that From November-Feb a water park wouldnt be a great idea. "Yes, they most certainly did. My kids would swim in sub zero temperatures if they could. But it was warm enough to swim in December. " Funny how some things dont ever bother kids.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Kids are pretty much willing to sacrifice any amount of discomfort to have fun.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 It's also sometimes 70 degrees in January. I remember I was there for the Northridge quake in '94 and listening to the radio driving to LAX (I was going home that day). By the afternoon people were already tired of talking about the quake and this obviously transplanted New Yorker said "Hey. There's a price we pay for 70 degrees in January. This is the price we freakin' pay." Still, there are definitely years where you'd have low attendance in those seasons. A retractable roof would be the ideal solution, but I don't know how practical that is.
Originally Posted By ksargen Thoughts: indoors is more doable than you might imagine. A local aquatic center was built for year round use. It is basically a greenhouse with pools in it. It has some climate controls, the pools are heated, and it has a partially retractible roof. If a small town can manage to get the money and tech together for three pools under one giant roof, Disney could certainly do a large complex. The price we pay, indeed. We've had sunbathing weather further north for Christmas, so, yes, some years, the weather stays warmish a lot more than others. We've also had freakish snow and cold some places. A few years back, I took pictures of snow in the hills around Santa Barbara - talk about a rare sight! And yes, I remember how warm it was when the Northridge quake it. We were in shorts and tshirts running around campus... Best description of weather tolerances, temps, etc.: husband I and went on a trip to Florida and the Bahamas one spring. In California, where we live, the temps were, at best, in the mid 60s, and the water was the typical high 50's. We arrive to Florida, where the temps never got much cooler than 70 degrees, and the water was likewise warm. We're walking down the beach, enjoying the sun, and heading for the water when we hear a very East Coast accent say the following. "You kids - don't go in the water! It's too cold!" She was trying to warn her kids off water we were glad to be enjoying, because it was colder at home! *LOL*
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<. . . but definitely too chilly for spending the day at the water park for the average Californian.>> I guess it depends on what amenities and features would be designed into a water park that would make the difference. For me, I swim four days a week, every week of the year with a U.S. Masters swim team in O.C. Practice begins at 5:30 am in every kind of weather. The worst weather is a cold wind, followed by rain. Were a water park to be built, strategically blocking wind would go a long way to make the place much more comfortable.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 My kids are like Contance's...they will swim no matter how cold it is. We went to DL in December and it was pretty chilly (although quite a bit warmer than home) and my kids swam every day. It was kind of funny, actually. All the parents were sitting around the pool in jeans and sweaters, but there were a lot of kids in the pool.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Regardless of the weather, a water park of any design won't bring in as much revenue as a well-designed theme park. I think a third Disney theme park would make the DLR so all inclusive that tourists would venture off property even less than they do since the addition of DCA/Downtown Disney.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<Regardless of the weather, a water park of any design won't bring in as much revenue as a well-designed theme park.>> Yes, but no one wants to pay for a well designed theme park any longer. Also, a water park requires about half of the land of a theme park.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>but no one wants to pay for a well designed theme park any longer.<< I don't know about that. Universal and Disney both have been pouring a lot of money and creativity into their parks in the last few years. And both have seen attendance numbers soar because of it.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Didn't someone say that Disney's research concluded that a water park at DLR wouldn't be profitable?
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<I don't know about that. Universal and Disney both have been pouring a lot of money and creativity into their parks in the last few years.>> TI's cost a heck of a lot less than start ups.
Originally Posted By schnebs It's certainly possible that a traditional water park wouldn't be profitable for Disney - especially in a market where peak season's only a couple months long. But that's why I think an indoor/retractable roof water park might work - it'd be unique to the market and it'd be available year-round. If it's well enough done, it might be enough to encourage families to hang out at the DLR for another day or two and locals to visit both on and off-season. Let's take another tack - for those of you who aren't thrilled with the water park idea, what would you think about a Marvel-themed park as the DLR's third gate?
Originally Posted By ksargen IF they did it right, sure. But it also has a lot of potential to be craptastic. *LOL*
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I've said this before, but for a number of reasons I don't think a third Disney park is feasible in Anaheim. Mostly I believe that the market is over saturated. Unless DCA suddenly starts performing beyond expectations Disney isn't likely going to drop $1 billion+ on developing another gate in Anaheim anytime soon. If anything I expect to see another hotel, and 2nd parking structure, and possibly an expansion of DTD announced in the next year or two, but not another theme park.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan >>what would you think about a Marvel-themed park as the DLR's third gate?<< I like the idea. I also like the idea of a Disney Villains park. I think both would be quite popular. I think the biggest problem is available space. There's just not a whole lot of it in that area. Buying it back would be tremendously expensive, though I think the payback would be tremendous as well.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "Didn't someone say that Disney's research concluded that a water park at DLR wouldn't be profitable?" That's what that Lee guy always said. He made it sound like the idea was raked over the coals and came up empty each time, so it's a no way.
Originally Posted By CDF2 Disney folks have only to look a few miles away at Knott's Soak City to see how the concept works/doesn't work. Yes - Orange County is in an area that is highly affected by the proximity of the Pacific Ocean and isn't as warm year-round as most people from outside the area think. So the question of being enclosed is one of importance, particularly if you want a year-round attraction. Could Disney folks come up with a unique and compelling themed waterpark similar tothe ones in Florida? I would think they could. Why not put in in the parking lot area between Paradise Pier hotel and Katella where it would be in easy walking distance from the resort hotels and even the surrounding motels of the area? Might work - all depends on how compelling you make the themed aspect of it I would think.
Originally Posted By TINK-MOBILE We have being getting Annual passes for ten years now...with the increase that will end now...we usually go for at least 10 days..driving if the family goes and flying if just I or if 2 of us goes ..are there any 10 day passes been sold anywhere... : )
Originally Posted By TINK-MOBILE A water park would be a nice feature..as many have said...Our kids too..could care less if it was raining , snowing...they would have a Blast no matter what...for those scorching days..a water park would be Great...and with everyone over there...we could have more room else where : )
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Tinkmobile if you visit Mousesavers.com ; they have a discussion about Disney Corp "grandfathering " certain passes and ticket price options. I recommend making a copy of the information if you plan to plead your case over the phone or at the ticket center at DL. It is confusing and detailed,etc...but worth reading.
