Originally Posted By 9oldmen >>and with everyone over there...we could have more room else where : )<< I think people have a misconception about a 3rd gate or water park . If they were to build either or both, the idea would be to get people to spend yet another day, or days at the resort, not to just displace the same number of people. Opening a third gate or water park will get people to spend more money, but the idea that it's going to alleviate crowding at the existing parks? Sorry, but no. In Florida, the four gated parks, and two water parks all manage to get pretty crowded, despite eachothers existence.
Originally Posted By CDF2 I'm sure the Disney desire is to have all of the parks in a resort crowded - in the the case of WDW they are simply trying to give guests a reason to stay on their property alone by providing a week's worth of activities and they have pretty much done that. At DLR, the point is getting guests to stay in the 3-4 day range or perhaps even longer to use a DLR hotel as a base for a SoCal vacation (there is no shortage of vacation "combo" tickets for SoCal that include 3-5 days at Disney, one day at USH and one day at San Diego Zoo/Wild Animal Park) You don't build another park or attraction to relieve congestion on your other parks - you build another attraction to keep guests on your property for another day or two.
Originally Posted By TINK-MOBILE I do not think that people will increase their stays longer to see another park..it is too costly as it is..It will how ever be another place for people to go...they will be splitting up their time differently..we would increase our stay by a couple of days to see a new park..we would just plan time there just as we would the other parks..Disney World is a Different Ball Game..they have so many Parks..but most our Friends that go..do not see every park each visit..they do different ones..and when they return..they go to the ones they like best and add the ones they haven't seen..but there are people who will stay a few days more....but it isn't going to be many...the way the costs have risen... Soon Disney will be pricing the visiting Tourists out of town...Maybe they should be increasing the Passes for the people who go all the time...and perhaps should scale down the costs for the people who go for their Annual Vacations or for others going three or four times a year or so . : )
Originally Posted By TINK-MOBILE Sorry...we would not increase our stay by a couple of days..to see a new park..we would just work it in.. : )
Originally Posted By tashajilek "Maybe they should be increasing the Passes for the people who go all the time...and perhaps should scale down the costs for the people who go for their Annual Vacations or for others going three or four times a year or so . : )" Thats how i feel too TM. I looked at my premier pass which i bought last year and i had 12 days on it which was for a couple DL trips and a WDW trip.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub If all the attractions and entertainment were kept in excellent condition and opened to full capacity at the peak times I would think it would be worth the increase. I am more alarmed with the price for the Disneyland Hotels and can not believe anybody can afford to stay there. At least WDW gives different levels of affordability for families. DL is currently asking 275 plus tax and resort fees for Paradise Pier per night with AP discounts. Maybe it is cheaper with the packages ...and length of stay. Does anybody know?
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I am more alarmed with the price for the Disneyland Hotels and can not believe anybody can afford to stay there.<< LOL! Don't go there! Every time I have said the same thing I have been told by posters on this board that $300 a night for a hotel room is perfectly affordable for middle class families.
Originally Posted By berol Only to continue the tradition... $300 a night for a hotel room is perfectly affordable for middle class families.
Originally Posted By tashajilek "At least WDW gives different levels of affordability for families. DL is currently asking 275 plus tax and resort fees for Paradise Pier per night with AP discounts. " I seriously dont get it either! For someone like me who travels a lot the $300 a night room can be sacrificed so i can go on another trip. I dont know why DL doesnt have one moderate hotel at lease to choose from? Also, i think the WDW hotels are a lot nicer, spacious and probably worth the money more than the DL hotels. Thats just my opinion though.
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>LOL! Don't go there! Every time I have said the same thing I have been told by posters on this board that $300 a night for a hotel room is perfectly affordable for middle class families.<<< To be honest...I wouldn't pay $300.00 per night if the room were filled with hookers. (said for emphasis) I don't think I could sleep knowing that is what I was paying to lie down. Just can't wrap my head around that.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "I dont know why DL doesnt have one moderate hotel at lease to choose from" They really don't have to. With only 3, which all have excellent occupancy rates, it makes sense for them to charge whatever the market will bear. Besides, unlike WDW, DL has moderate hotels literally across the street, easy waking distance. True, they're not Disney-owned. But if you want to stay some place reasonable and still walk to the parks, you can do that at DLR, unlike WDW.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I don't think I could sleep knowing that is what I was paying to lie down. Just can't wrap my head around that." I think it all depends on what one expects from a resort hotel while vacationing. The level of service, available amenities, and convenience are important to me when I'm vacationing, even if it's at DL or WDW.
Originally Posted By ksargen tashajilek said: "I seriously dont get it either! For someone like me who travels a lot the $300 a night room can be sacrificed so i can go on another trip. I dont know why DL doesnt have one moderate hotel at lease to choose from? Also, i think the WDW hotels are a lot nicer, spacious and probably worth the money more than the DL hotels. Thats just my opinion though." This is why they have the "good neighbor" deals. They're offering an alternative, it just happens to be one with fewer perks and greater distances (in some cases) to get to the parks. Yes, you're missing some of the "Disney Magic," but it IS a choice. Given how many other choices are out there for staying near DLR, it's amazing they even do that anymore, rather than just hype the heck out of their own stuff. They must still make enough money on the good neighbor deals to make it worth their while. 8)
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance I don't know. I'm certainly not an expert, but given the fact that Disney is able to have excellent occupancy rates for their "expensive" hotels even though there are many, many moderately priced hotels right across the street, in some cases closer than the DLR hotels, mean that if they added their own moderately priced resort, it would likely take business away from the non Disney owned moderates rather than their own higher priced options? I know if they had a hotel that was moderatley priced, or value, I would pick that is a second over the ones on Harbor. I can't really afford or justify the higher priced ones very often, but I still want the Disney experience. Seems there has to be plenty others like me.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>I dont know why DL doesnt have one moderate hotel at lease to choose from?<< My guess: the high cost of real estate in Anaheim. After Disney paying zillions for the strawberry fields I would expect nothing less than a pricey hotel to be built there (especially since they seem to have no problem filling them). For those of us on budgets, there are the chain motels on Harbor and Katella (which suit me just fine)
Originally Posted By Kidz-n-k9s Count me in as one that would love a lower priced "Disney experience" hotel. I can't justify the extra cost to stay there - for example this weekend we are at HOJO for the AP rate of $59/night. The lowest I can get into a Disney property is $264/nt for a standard room at PP on the AP rate, plus $15/parking. My entire trip (gas, food, etc.) will cost me less per day than just the hotel rate at a Disney property. I can't justify that in my mind. Don't mistake - I have splurged once in my adult life on the Disneyland Hotel, which was a few years back when the offered stay three nights, get two free. It was still pricier than my normal haunts on Harbor, but not 4x the price, so I went with it. One day, I will stay there again...
Originally Posted By tashajilek I dont really like the hotels that are around Disneyland either. They are mostly really dated expensive too.I have stayed at a few and the last stay at the Castle inn sucked that i wont do it again. We always rent a car and pricelined places like the Crowne, Hilton and Doubletree still much cheaper than a good neighbour and a lot nicer.
