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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    To assist in 'splainin' my point...

    Back in the day, Disney would release these movies as 'the 19th animated feature' -- it was easier to track...

    When Disney was producing an animated movie every four years -- it was a bigger deal. When I was a kid, "101 Dalmatians" would be released, and then years would go by until you saw another Disney animated feature.

    There was something special about it.

    After the success of 'The Little Mermaid' in 1989, we started seeing a new 'Disney Animated Feature' every year. Once a year. A trend that continues today.

    I'm suggesting that for me, the wonder and magic of a 'Disney Animated Feature' not only wears off in this modern movie making environment, but it also seems unnecessary.

    "Emperor's New Groove," "Home on the Range," "Treasure Planet," "Chicken Little" -- all suffer from the 'crank it out' mentality of getting a movie produced once a year.

    And my thought is this. Is it necessary to include each one of these movies like "Bolt" and the rest as 'the next Disney animated feature.'

    And who says you can't produce an animated movie for TV only? "Prep and Landing" was a made-for-TV release -- why not "Bolt"? Or 'The Emporer's New Groove"? Or 'Home on the Range"?

    Disney used to make made-for-TV movies for "The Wonderful World of Disney" years ago -- "Mystery in Dracula's Castle" with Johnny Whitaker and Marriet Hartley back in the 70s comes to mind.

    With Disney's current line up, added in with Pixar, and these independent studios that produce 'Gnomeo and Elton John" released under the Touchstone label, and it just seems like Disney has created their own glut of animated movies.

    But because 'Tangled' is released under the Walt Disney Pictures label, it's the one given the monicker of 'Disney Animated Feature' and added to the list that includes these other ones.

    Maybe I'm just getting tired of these animated movies because they're not very good.
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    I'm pretty sure you'll be fine with "Tangled" being on the Official List.

    Thanks for the clarification. I don't agree 100%, but it makes more sense now.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    <I'm pretty sure you'll be fine with "Tangled" being on the Official List.

    Thanks for the clarification. I don't agree 100%, but it makes>

    yeah, well -- take a number :)
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    "Prep and Landing" was a made-for-TV release<<

    And really good! I can see that becoming an annual favorite along the lines of A Charlie Brown Christmas, The grinch, etc.

    >>And who says you can't produce an animated movie for TV only?<<

    I throw this idea out into the wind every so often in the hopes that some enterprising young exec at Disney sees it and runs with it (I can dream!): I'd love to see a half hour series of really experimental stuff created by up and coming talent, a little animation showcase for trying out new, out-of-the-mold styles, claymation, paper cutouts, whatever. It would be the testing ground like the old shorts used to be.

    Well, I;'d watch it.
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    Disney spent millions on a new TV series 'My Generation' this Fall.

    It was so bad, they cancelled it after 2 episodes. What's the expense of something like that?
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>I'd love to see a half hour series of really experimental stuff created by up and coming talent, a little animation showcase for trying out new, out-of-the-mold styles, claymation, paper cutouts, whatever.<<

    It was tried by one of the cable channels several years ago, exactly as you described. The fact that I can't even remember the channel or the name of the series should tell you how well it went over. I think it was either Cartoon Network or Nickelodeon .....

    And I think people are misinterpreting my comments about made-for-TV and production values. I loved Prep and Landing almost (but not quite) as much as everyone else here, but it was still made on the cheap compared to the "major" theatrical features. If HOTR or Bolt had been made for TV, they would have come out very different.

    Should they have spent all that money on HOTR? That's a different question.

    I also want to throw out there that making higher-budget animated specials like Prep and Landing is a very risky proposition. For every Prep and Landing there are 10 or 12 Olive the Other Reindeers - shows that run one time on the network and then get bounced straight to cable and the Wal-Mart budget bin.

    And as good as Prep and Landing is, I'm afraid the jury is still out on whether it has any staying power. I'd like to think it does, but American audiences never listen to me. Just look at all the responses the Harry Potter topic got compared to the Tangled topics. On a DISNEY board!
     
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    Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA

    It was just announced that the next Harry Potter movie will NOT be released in 3-D.

    Why? "Couldn't get it done" by the release date.

    Real reason? 3-D is not the silver bullet Hollywood was banking on.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    Was that the Cartoon! Cartoon! show on Cartoon Network? If so, that experimental series launched a couple of big hits for CN -- Powerpuff Girls and Dexter's Laboratory.
     
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    Originally Posted By Anatole69

    Liquid Television on MTV in the 90's did exactly what you describe, and Aeon Flux came out of it.

    - Anatole
     

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