Originally Posted By Manfried I saw these three guys with see-through sheets on I-4 with their thumbs out. Maybe I should have picked them up and brought them back.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> I'm a bit torn on this. I like the idea of an update to the stale 'figures on a stick' schtick. But the change over from fairly static, 3 dimensional figures in the rest of the attraction to the CG animation, that moves all over the place, is pretty jarring. << You put it better than I did. It's like comparing the visual look of the Star Wars prequels to the original trilogy: they look worlds apart, which makes the entire package seem less visually cohesive IMO.
Originally Posted By CarolinaDisneyDad from the video it doesn't seem that they are hitching a ride on the buggy anymore. just thumbing for a ride. The fun of that sequence was that they are in the car with you. I don't care how they do it but the basic idea of the ghost tagging along with the guest needs to be maintained. It plays into the old story of the driver who passes the spot of a terrible crash and looks into the rearview to see someone sitting in the backseat. oooooooooooooooooooooo!
Originally Posted By MousDad There are some really astute and intelligent comments being made in this thread about the importance of show and how this is slipshod when compared to the Disney standard. It's very refreshing to read. Whether it's temporary or not is really not the issue. Yet.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA I don't really have a problem if Disney wants to tinker with, and attempt to plus the special effects in The Haunted Mansion. However, it needs to be a real leap and look really cool. For example, If they're going to the trouble of creating the hitchhikers in CGI - shouldn't they look a thousand times better? Looking at them in the video, they're a strange combination -- they look almost half finished, with very little detail, and then have those strange heads that look plopped on top. Anyone else seeing this? As for the 'look' of the hitchhiker scene where they're standing in their line -- I would have projected them on a scrim material, and then between the guests moving past on the Omnimover and the hitchhikers, another scrim. Would give it more of an ethereal look, I think. Also -- that part in the video, where the viewer looks to the left and you can see all the digital projections floating on the screen in font of all the Omnimovers passing the mirrors-- just doesn't work at all. In the original Haunted Mansion, the idea was that the ghosts are in your Omnimover with you. Sure the 'ghosts on a stick' was clunky, but it worked, and it was a fun illusion. With crystal clear projections, it looks clean and clear and clunky. The magic of Haunted Mansion was the artistry that went along with special effects. Pepper's Ghost, use of lighting, scrims, reflections in glass -- all part of the overall 'mechanical' effects. Sometimes technology -- if not used well, and just used because it's 'easier' -- doesn't improve things.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan For example, If they're going to the trouble of creating the hitchhikers in CGI - shouldn't they look a thousand times better? Looking at them in the video, they're a strange combination -- they look almost half finished, with very little detail, and then have those strange heads that look plopped on top. Anyone else seeing this?<< Yes, these look almost like an early animation test in a way. I can see projected CGI ghosts working very nicely. They could appear and disappear convincingly, be much more "ghostly, more wispy and etherial than a CGI figure ever could, and of course could do a lot more movement, gestures, interaction. Perhaps projected onto mist screens or something of that sort, the ghosts in the Mansion could take on new "life" in this way. ; ) So I kind of like the direction of this, provided that this is a work in progress and not the finished product.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle Since it's temporary, I'll withhold judgement. I don't mind a change / upgrade, and I think the possibilities could be really cool... as long as the ghosts still hitch a ride in your Doom Buggy with you! It's a sentimental part of the ride for me and I'd hate it if that went away.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Also -- that part in the video, where the viewer looks to the left and you can see all the digital projections floating on the screen in font of all the Omnimovers passing the mirrors-- just doesn't work at all.<<< Which is leading most to believe that it is a work in progress.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>And since when are 'tests' part of the guest experience?<<< Since TDO doesn't want to close a attraction for some work and in the processes ruin someone's MK visit.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA >>>And since when are 'tests' part of the guest experience?<<< <Since TDO doesn't want to close a attraction for some work and in the processes ruin someone's MK visit. > Coming soon -- 'Space Mountain with the lights on' and all new guest experience. It'll allow guests to ride the world famous coaster while Disney continues to rehab it.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Riding Space Mountain with the lights on is more scarier than when you ride in the dark. When I was in mgmt at the MK I would let the crew ride with the lights on after the park closed if we had no breakdowns during the night.
Originally Posted By darcy-becker "Since TDO doesn't want to close a attraction for some work and in the processes ruin someone's MK visit." If someone's trip is ruined by what is essentially one small detail then their trip was probably doomed from the start. Nothing is ever perfect. I imagine a lot more people would be disappointed with the Mansion being closed. If Disney can avoid that all the better.
Originally Posted By brotherdave I have to agree, riding Space Mountain with the lights on is much scarier than in the dark. The clearance of the tracks above you seems a LOT closer! It also looks a lot less appealing and more "industrial" than I would have imagined it. Still, it's a fun ride with either the lights on or off, just for different reasons!
Originally Posted By leobloom >> If someone's trip is ruined by what is essentially one small detail then their trip was probably doomed from the start. Nothing is ever perfect. I imagine a lot more people would be disappointed with the Mansion being closed. If Disney can avoid that all the better. << Yeah, what the hell's show quality anyway? If they were going to close attractions for broken effects, the only thing open would be the shops and restaurants.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I dunno... if they are instituting a new effect to make up for the fact that they are refurbing a old one, and putting what is essentially a moving refurb wall in, I have to commend that. Real meaning of B Mode.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 >>>And since when are 'tests' part of the guest experience?<<< Since TDO doesn't want to close a attraction for some work and in the processes ruin someone's MK visit ------------- I'm guessing you hit the nail on the head EE-- not permanent but with the back half of the park closed- they are not going to shutter HM while they do needed work -- hence a rushed temp fix
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Another good point... Capacity can't take the hit of having a major E Tic down with TTF closed up. Pitiful.
