Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>World Disney, your posts are great to read and well thought out. I do enjoy them- just wanted to let you know that, like all LP posters, I value your contribution<< Jesus Christ!! Don't give him a swollen head now too!!!
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< Jesus Christ!! Don't give him a swollen head now too!!! >>> If you're not careful, you're going to make him think he's the Second Coming.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I have heard that people really appreciate gardens in China. Will they offer Fastpass on the flower-sniffing queue? >>> . I was talking with an ex-Imagineer about the lack of opening-day attractions at HKDL, and the first thing he said was pretty much what you said above, that research shows that Chinese people like to spend time in gardens. So there's no doubt in my mind that this is the mentality at work within WDI, or at least one of them. I guess we'll know in a few weeks how it all turns out.
Originally Posted By jmuboy Well then - I am going to build Cyprese Gardens Hong Kong and see what happens. They have beautiful grounds and no rides (well, they used to have no rides)
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 ""I've heard horror stories about their Fantasyland dark rides and how poorly they are maintained and operated."" You have NOOOOOOOOOO IDEA.
Originally Posted By leemac <<All of the Disney press releases say they'll limit daily attendance at Hong Kong to 30,000 guests.>> Westsider not sure where you got this figure from but it isn't any press release I have seen or read about HKDL. The other issue to consider is the huge throughput of the dining facilities. They have thousands of seats across the park and are expecting heavy traffic through them. I'll be intrigued to see how the attractions are perceived by guests. Early indications are that many HK-ers go to walk around, eat, shop and meet the characters. Wait times were not excessive during the first week of previews.
Originally Posted By leemac << was talking with an ex-Imagineer about the lack of opening-day attractions at HKDL, and the first thing he said was pretty much what you said above, that research shows that Chinese people like to spend time in gardens. So there's no doubt in my mind that this is the mentality at work within WDI, or at least one of them. I guess we'll know in a few weeks how it all turns out.>> Actually the popularity of Fantasy Gardens is their biggest worry. The area will be closed if the queues get too long to meet the characters. HK-ers have tiny apartments and are embarrassed about entertaining at home. They hire restaurants and meet their friends elsewhere. Research has shown that they love gardens and fanciful areas. Disneyland is perfect for this. The city has a fairly high average disposable income and so I do really think locals will go just to spend the day outside the house.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "I'll be intrigued to see how the attractions are perceived by guests. Early indications are that many HK-ers go to walk around, eat, shop and meet the characters. Wait times were not excessive during the first week of previews." This brings up another question. Do the residents of Hong Kong have the same views of attractions as people from Europe...meaning if it's not visible outdoors, they don't know about it?
Originally Posted By Westsider leemac <<"Westsider not sure where you got this figure from [30,000 daily capacity] but it isn't any press release I have seen or read about HKDL."<< The 30,000 number is in a long list of statements and press releases from the Park in the last year. Esther Wong, who is the official HKDL spokeswoman, has rattled that number off to a growing list of media outlets in Asia. It's so oftenly quoted now that government officials from Hong Kong are now also using it in statements to the media. Here's a list of links I just found on Google, all with official statements from Disney or quotes from Esther Wong mentioning the "attendance cap" of 30,000 per day and the importance of purchasing your tickets in advance of your arrival at HKDL: <a href="http://english.sina.com/taiwan_hk/1/2005/0816/42524.html" target="_blank">http://english.sina.com/taiwan _hk/1/2005/0816/42524.html</a> <a href="http://archives.tcm.ie/breakingnews/2005/06/22/story208217.asp" target="_blank">http://archives.tcm.ie/breakin gnews/2005/06/22/story208217.asp</a> <a href="http://www.newsgd.com/travel/travelnews/200506240019.htm" target="_blank">http://www.newsgd.com/travel/t ravelnews/200506240019.htm</a> <a href="http://www.thestandard.com.hk/stdn/std/Front_Page/GF23Aa02.html" target="_blank">http://www.thestandard.com.hk/ stdn/std/Front_Page/GF23Aa02.html</a> Enjoy the links!
Originally Posted By leemac Cheers Westsider. Esther is actually the public affairs spokesperson so I'm surprised she would be quoting attendance figures. Having spoken with HKDL Management Limited tonight (the WDP&R arm of the park) their stance is "we do not discuss attendance figures". Strange huh?
Originally Posted By DLFAN79 BTW Westsider, what DO you guys think of OUR darkrides at MK. And what HAVE you heard?
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< So much for tolerance, compassion, and open mindedness, huh? >>> After TDLFAN's response, I just couldn't resist. I realize that we're all sensitive to different things. I tried to send you a PM but you don't have an email address listed in your profile.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>So much for tolerance, compassion, and open mindedness, huh?<< Well...when you have a Prez who does not believe in those attributes, what's the rest of America going to do??? I wonder if you are as upset as many when many of our leaders go around saying..."God Bless the USA"? Well? Are you? Same difference.
Originally Posted By aracuanbird ^^Wow, now I remember why I stay away from these boards for such long stretches...who would think folks would be getting slapped around about STOOPID FREAKIN POLITICS on a HKDL discussion board? I think I have something like 17 cable stations which I pay for to get the talking head crap. Why would anyone need it here?
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Why would anyone need to be reprimended for saying "Jesus Christ!" in exclamation or jest?!?!?
Originally Posted By aracuanbird I think it should just get dropped. Just because someone gets all clenched up about something, there's no reason to let the whole matter become some engorged tumor that overruns the topic of the board. That's all. And I am sorry of the previous post came off as harsh...I have problem with controlling my own tone in this context. I'm not trying to be all indignant or anything...
Originally Posted By mstaft Yes, TDLFAN, I do get frustrated. I do not see this the same as you, however. "God Bless You" and "Jesus Christ" are two different things. But if you dislike it when people use that kind of phrase, then be better than they are and set a fine example instead. Kindness and consideration, regardless of politics or religion, go a long way. I do not always suceed or am perfect, but I do attempt to be kind. In hindsight, it may have been more appropriate to as WorldDisney to reconsider his use of this phrase in private vs using a public board. So, WorldDisney, my apology for not asking privately, and everyone else, I am sorry you had to read it. Even though Laughinplace community standards do not agree with me, I still prefer differently. Here is my response from Doobie on the matter: "I understand your feeling on the subject and I personally don't use that phrase, but LP reflects, to some extent, the larger community and unfortunately "Jesus Christ" like "Oh my God" and other similar phrases are not considered problematic to the vast majority of people. Therefore, it is permitted on our boards. I'm sorry if you disagree, but that is our policy. Doobie."
