Originally Posted By Bellella Boy, I hope that the Universal contract never runs out. They can really do right by those characters. AutopiaDeb, the Tomorrowland '67 as we know it went out in the late 90's when they overhauled Tomorrowland and changed the whole look of the place, which was a very good move. It's just too bad they couldn't think of something cooler for the Carousel Theater building. See? I don't see D-land as a museum. Some of the changes they've made over the years have been phenomenal. I just don't want every single ride to have a friggin movie or character tie-in.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Oh, Spirit! Yoo, hoo! Your presence is requested.>> The Spirit is always with you, Skinner. I can't help but think this is being planted by someone close (or on) the WDI team that has proposed the attraction. It looks/feels/smells like the Tron rumors, which also had a basis in fact. When last I heard, this concept wasn't going to Shanghai, which meant it also wasn't going anywhere else. This despite the fact there is a building on the Shanghai art that looks for all the world like either the Innoventions building or a not-built concept for an EPCOT Space pavilion. Of course, I had heard Space Mountain wasn't going to be here (replaced by Tron) and neither are on the park art I have studied. I dunno ... it all just appears that someone is hoping by getting this out in the fan community there will be some groundswell for it and Iger/Staggs/Rasulo will give it a green light. But it just isn't that easy. If China has passed, then I don't see anyway it's coming to Anaheim. And that's the situation ... right now.
Originally Posted By MoondoggieCA Actually DlandDug, I have considered getting that video, yes. And thanks. As to the Marvel characters being added to the parks, I will always have my opinion about it, and might not agree with it. I'd prefer them at DCA, and leave Tomorrowland to the more generic edutainment piece. But Disney is going to do what they will, and though I may not agree, I won't stop visiting Disneyland. Just love it too much. I'm not that wild-eyed.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Tomorrowland's "World in Motion" theme ensured that everything within the land had some connection, a cohesive reasoning for everything from Monorail to Autopia to the Skyway to the People Mover and more. While I think the Stark Expo could be well done, there is no cohesive common thread in TL now. Star Tours, Nemo, Buzz, Monorail, Autopia, EO, Space Mountain. The theme is "Anything kinda spacey/futuristic goes." I'd love to see the land reimagined within a more cohesive way -- like they're doing with Carsland or Buena Vista Street, but that is not likely to happen anytime soon. And maybe it only matters to geeks like me anyway by now.
Originally Posted By oc_dean My 2cents ... I'm saying no to "Innoventions 2.0" ... It's another walk-through exhibit. You can throw a little "flash" here .. "flash" there .. but in the end ... it's another walk through pavilion. Unless they reformatted the rotating bit to contain seats (aka - it's CoP and America Sings days) ... then it makes it a bit more varied, interesting format. But I'm of the think-tank ... Rides are far more interesting, and LASTing ... over Exhibits. But my number one answer .... throwing in another Synergized, Branded, Franchised .. entity in here .... is throwing in the towel even more .. to what a land that's about idealized, tangible realities that may be in our future. The future here is looking even more muddled, confused, and lost: In the future fish talk to us, about how to find the East Australian Current. We'll go battle with toys combating an evil emperor out to steal all Double A batteries. Do more battle with sith lords of another galaxy from the past. And next ... we'll all be super heroes to battle more BADDIES with special powers, or special armored costumes with snazy color patterns. You getting a growing subtext???! WOW! That's my future? Can hardly wait! A Tomorrowland run by executives who have watched too many Villain over Hero - Hero over Villain films. And think it's alright to gloss Tomorrowland with one too many Hero/Villain fighting sub themes!
Originally Posted By lazyboy97o I really hope this does not happen. As was stated, it is pointlessly self-referential. If the idea of futurism cannot stand on its own then it is no better with a character that cost the Company a lot of money. <<Boy, I hope that the Universal contract never runs out. They can really do right by those characters.>> Well you will be happy to know that there is no expiration date on the deal for Marvel Super Hero Island. I would suspect that the deals for Universal Studios Japan and Madam Tussauds London would impact the nearby Disney Resorts.
Originally Posted By HMButler79 Now that Lord Staggs has crowned Queen Megara to lord over all of DLR, we can pretty much kiss this idea good bye since she LOOOVES keeping attractions that suck wind.
Originally Posted By fabshelly I actually love the idea, if only to hear that fantastic John Debney/Richard Sherman song in the park. Tomorrowland is no longer themed, unfortunately to "a world on the move". It's a shame, but we don't look forward to bubble dome cars and space pads anymore. Why not use the properties you have and have some fun with it?
Originally Posted By DlandDug Fabshelly? Welcome to the boards! (Or is it welcome back..?) Good to see you here-- hope you will stop by Community and introduce yourself.
Originally Posted By oc_dean For everyone wondering what the content was to be for this Stark Expo you should check this out: <a href="http://www.comicbookmovie.com/avengers/news/?a=41134" target="_blank">http://www.comicbookmovie.com/...?a=41134</a> Movie sets, costumes, and a Meet & Greet! Some were suggesting ... It's better than Innoventions. I don't think so! I see absolutely no net gain .. WHAT .. SO ... EVER !!
Originally Posted By 1948-76804 Not really something I want to see in Disneyland - of all places. Never really been a fan of Iron man, or any super-hero for that matter. They've always seemed kind of cheap, and they're all pretty much the same to me. I still don't get why Disney bought Marvel, the two don't mix very well.
Originally Posted By rader22 I'm not personally sure that the marvel characters fit in Disneyland. However, I do love the the concept picture that I saw as it eveoked a futuristic feel in me. What I would like to see is the concept art but with an attraction or attractions that are removed from Marvel and into a truly sci-fi style.
Originally Posted By tonyanton I don't know, TL is such a mix of projects at this point, I would be all for an Iron Man 3-D film to replace Captain Eo, with some real, cool in-theater effects as well.
Originally Posted By patrickegan To really give T-land a Walt makeover is gonna cost a billion dollars. I think the Billion over at DCA is going to fall short of the expected goals/desired effect. The Autopia electric cars is a no brainer as everyone including military contractors have gone green. You can sharpen your pencils till the cows come home, but at the end of the day it's hard to do magic on the cheap. :-(
Originally Posted By gadzuux Radiator Springs Racers is going to make Autopia even more of an anachronism than it already is. Why go to a great deal of trouble and expense to upgrade Autopia - yet again - when they've got a far superior version of this type of attraction within the resort? Autopia takes up an enormous amout of space - space that could be given over to some other - better - kind of attraction, one with larger capacity and that appeals to a larger group of guests. I've heard for years that they cannot put anything on top of the sub bunker. Fine, leave it landscaped with some fountains, and build around it. And clear out the 'spaghetti bowl' of peoplemover track and most of the monorail track. Move the monorail station way back by the parade entrance with a new area with dining and retail. Then the track passes around the matterhorn and down the center of TL promenade, as a replacement for the old PM tracks that would be gone to yesterland. Autopia, through all of it's various incarnations over the years, has never been anything more than a glorified go-kart track. This isn't the kind of 'classic' attraction people should get misty about. It's a lot of valuable square footage, staffed by a lot of CMs, for a low capacity ride that doesn't interest most of their guests. Opening up the back NE quadrant of the park to guests with a new expansion area would increase the capacity of the entire park, as well as upgrading one of the park's least interesting areas. I'm hoping that the success of RSR will only hasten the end of Autopia - and the beginnings of something new.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>I do love the the concept picture that I saw as it eveoked a futuristic feel in me. << If you are referring to this: <a href="http://media.comicbookmovie.com/images/uploads/Concept%20Art%20From%20Marvels%20Marvel%20Super%20Heroes%20Theme%20Park%20" target="_blank">http://media.comicbookmovie.co...0Park%20</a>(5).jpg Correction - That is not a concept art piece for a Stark Expo. That is from the un-built Dubai Marvel park, before Disney bought out Marvel.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Let me try that link one more time: <a href="http://collider.com/wp-content/image-base/Clubhouse/M/Marvel_Theme_Park/Concept%20Art%20From%20Marvels%20Marvel%20Super%20Heroes%20Theme%20Park%20%285%29.jpg" target="_blank">http://collider.com/wp-content...5%29.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By DlandDug Much more here: <a href="http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2009/11/dubai-world-marvel-super-heroes-theme.html" target="_blank">http://disneyandmore.blogspot....eme.html</a>
Originally Posted By rader22 my mistake as I saw it with an article on the stark expo. Still, that to me is very furturistic and would work very well for tomorrowland. But putting an expo of costumes and such or attractions that actually are themed on the comics just won't work in the park.
