Originally Posted By leemac <<You think it's conincidental he is reporting to Iger directly for his WDI duties?>> This isn't the case. The press release was poorly worded. He reports to Bob for WDFA matters but for WDI he is consulting directly with WDI management such as Don Goodman.
Originally Posted By CoasterKrayzie >>Disney also will surrender control of its world-famous animation studio, the birthplace of Mickey Mouse, to Pixar creative chiefs, Ed Catmull and John Lasseter. Disney's animation studio, the birthplace of classic "Snow White," will be combined with Pixar animation operations under Catmull's leadership but the two will maintain separate studios.<< Reuters When I first heard about the deal was a bit nervous on how it would turn out, I knew it would be great for Disney, but I didn't want to see them ruin what Pixar has in their creativity. Now that Pixar has creative control over the studios it sounds great! I foresee another great revival for Disney animation. >>If they are in fact buying Pixar, does that mean that they will return to traditionally animated films?<< For some reason i really doubt we will be seeing Disney's traditional animated feature films any time soon. It does sound great if it would happen. I love CGI, but i know that warm feeling you are talking about with traditional animation.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer I remember hearing that Lasseter wanted to make a traditionally animated film at Pixar, but Jobs nixed it. I think we could see WDFA focusing on traditional animation and Pixar focusing on digital.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom I have mixed feelings about this. I have a big problem with Disney feeling the need to buy Pixar to improve their own anamation quality. Why oh why did Eisner get destroy Disney's anamation in a cost cutting effort only to spend 7.5 Billion to buy someone else's? It makes me believe that in order to restore Walt's quality of anamation, Disney had to go out and pay top dollar for something Eisner cared less about to begin with. Oh course Steve Jobs on the board may not be such a bad thing.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Sorry I know my post may not have been the most coherent as possible and that Eisner is no longer with the Disney Company.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 < Disney had to go out and pay top dollar for something Eisner cared less about to begin with< points in time...you cannot say Eisner cared less about it as he was in charge when they poured what must have seemed like tons of $ into Little Mermaid at a time when animation box office sucked, and sucked for a long time. The string of big budget animated hits followed-- how can you overlook that fact that it was Eisner in charge then also ? Can;t have selective memory...yes I agree in the end he killed what he had helped build up...I have no idea why and it was wrong.....but let's be fair , he left Disney animation in about the same sttate he took it over in......
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney "LuvDatDisney if you want an education on Barry's resume I'll happily provide it. To suggest that the man was only responsible for Innoventions in his long run at Epcot is typically laughable from you. His work even comes through to Monsters, Inc. at DCA." I'm very familiar with Barry's work, Lee, but thanks for the personal dig. I guess your time away from the boards (seem to recall you saying you'd never post again) hasn't improved your people skills. As someone who knows just a bit about Barry, his meteoric rise at WDI was based on one thing. Impressing Eisner with how a cheap Best Buy/Comp USA/Circuit City home electronics show could be take up a huge chunk of Epcot real estate. Oh, I take that back. There was another thing too, his willingness to cut quality at any opportunity his bosses wanted to improve the bottom line. Perhaps, you're just upset that one of "your guys" at WDI is leaving?
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney <<You think it's conincidental he is reporting to Iger directly for his WDI duties?>> "This isn't the case. The press release was poorly worded. He reports to Bob for WDFA matters but for WDI he is consulting directly with WDI management such as Don Goodman." Oh, so now you're correcting an official corporate Disney press release? I don't whether you are right or not, but everything I've read -- including the official statement -- state otherwise. But, even if you're right, it doesn't change my point or my feelings. Marty will retire within the year. Tom will be pushed out the door if he doesn't move on to other things ... like spending more time with his family. And even Goodman won't likely last if he thinks toddler playgrounds and attractions like Stitch's Great Escape are what Disney should be doing.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <And even Goodman won't likely last if he thinks toddler playgrounds and attractions like Stitch's Great Escape are what Disney should be doing. < clap clap clap !!!
Originally Posted By idleHands "As someone who knows just a bit about Barry, his meteoric rise at WDI was based on one thing. Impressing Eisner with how a cheap Best Buy/Comp USA/Circuit City home electronics show could be take up a huge chunk of Epcot real estate. Oh, I take that back. There was another thing too, his willingness to cut quality at any opportunity his bosses wanted to improve the bottom line." Oh, LuvDatDisney... you are the wind beneath my wings!!
Originally Posted By idleHands "clap clap clap !!!" Ditto! Marty Sklar and his not-so-youthful ward, Tom Fitzgerald, need to go. Period. They've overstayed their welcome. And Goodman needs to pay very close attention to Lasseter's comments and suggestions regarding the parks, and how creative types should be treated. (Here's a hint, Don: It doesn't involve spreadsheet formulas nor cost-benefit analyses. That will make their brains implode, and subsequently generate more attractions like DL's Pooh and SuperStar Limo.) Imagineering is slowly decaying, like creative compost. Hopefully, Lasseter will be given enough leverage to institute serious and lasting change.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I had the privilege of meeting Lasseter a few years back, and was mightily impressed. He's just a truly creative person. So is Jobs, though I've never met him (I've been a Mac guy forever). Both of them seem to be of the credo that creativity MAKES money, rather than costs money. I'm very happy to see both of them in important positions in Disney.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney "Imagineering is slowly decaying, like creative compost. Hopefully, Lasseter will be given enough leverage to institute serious and lasting change." Intresting analogy, idlehands. I agree. In any creative endeavor when the product gets tired or bland, it's time for a change. WDI is no different. The past 6-7 years have seen so much talent ushered out the door under the guise that movies, off-the-shelf rides with Disney overlays, quick mini-thrill rides and marketing celebrations are what draw people to Disney parks and makes magical memories. Well, as DCA and DSP and even my beloved DAK (only to a small degree) have proven, that's not the case. They went for outsourced, the cheap, the clones etc ... and I feel reasonably secure in saying it didn't work. Lasseter isn't about any of those things. "I had the privilege of meeting Lasseter a few years back, and was mightily impressed. He's just a truly creative person. So is Jobs, though I've never met him (I've been a Mac guy forever). Both of them seem to be of the credo that creativity MAKES money, rather than costs money." I've met them both. Lasseter a few times. Not that it makes any difference because I was also impressed with Paul Pressler, but they left very positive vibes with me. But it's that last statement that's so important because that's the credo the Disney Bros worked under (and the company followed into the 70s and 80s and 90s). What costs money, more than you can ever figure out with a spreadsheet, is when your reputation is damaged due to putting your name on crap (be it theme parks, attractions, TV shows, retail stores, movies etc ...)
Originally Posted By leemac <<I'm very familiar with Barry's work, Lee, but thanks for the personal dig. I guess your time away from the boards (seem to recall you saying you'd never post again) hasn't improved your people skills.>> As long as you keep posting inaccurate statements that you claim are fact I'll happily be there to correct you.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney ^^There was nothing inaccurate in my statement regarding your soon to be departed pal. He wasn't a signifcant player at WDI until Innoventions. You aren't the only person with sources or inside information. Mine are just a bit more balanced. By the way, since we're on the subject of inaccuracies, didn't you put out a press release at least six (likely longer) months ago saying your publication was going to be sold at DL? Did I create that in my mind? Or did Disney decide it wouldn't be such a good idea to get into bed with a fan website?
Originally Posted By leemac <<He wasn't a signifcant player at WDI until Innoventions.>> Plain wrong of course. But I wouldn't expect anything less from you.
Originally Posted By LuvDatDisney ^^I am not getting pulled into a name-calling contest, Lee. If you feel so strongly that Barry is being wronged why don't you write a story about what a super guy and amazing Imagineer he was since you like to rewrite history to fit your views ... I'd even read it!
Originally Posted By Ash Is Crazy 4 WDW Alright Alright its official... ASHLEY IS SO EXCITED! ASHLEY IS SO EXCITED!!!! I've always wanted Disney to buy Pixar because I've always dreamed of working for both companies, so when I heard news that the buy was official, I couldn't help but scream!!!! I've never been so excited, I feel like a dork! LOL! *dances around*
