Originally Posted By Schmitty Good Vibes Sorry, I just learned the hard way about what not to do when transfering a Word doc to LP.
Originally Posted By FiveBearRugs Note to self: Add "Illusion of Life" and "Art of Disney" to library...
Originally Posted By JeffG I have a feeling that only a small percentage of the items listed in this thread were intentional tributes. To be honest, quite a few of them sound like pretty major stretches to me. Disney has a very rich history of films that covers a very wide range of genres and styles. That expands even more by quite a bit when you throw in the theme park attractions as well. As a result, it isn't too difficult to find some similarity to a previous Disney film in just about anything, particularly in a film like this one that is somewhat of a stylistic throwback to the type of film that Disney has been doing pretty much from the start. Let's also not forget that there are an awful lot of oft-repeated conventions within fairy tales in general, most of which pre-date Disney's versions. For an obvious example, wishing on a star was a pretty well-known storybook concept long before "Pinocchio" was ever made. Similarly, the New Orleans cultural traditions in the movie are inevitably going to resemble other Disney films that explored the same territory. Finally, a lot of the people that worked on "Princess and the Frog" worked on earlier Disney films, particularly those from the 1990s. Some visual and stylistic similarities to earlier characters or situations created by the same artists were inevitable. I wouldn't be surprised if a few of the things mentioned in this thread were not only unintentional, but might be a tad embarrassing to artists that probably aren't too enthusiastic about repeating themselves. Of course, there unquestionably were some real intentional inside references in the film. It just seems that it is pretty easy to get carried away if you start looking for Disney tributes in every character and scene. -Jeff
Originally Posted By mawnck >>This film was chock full of intentional tributes to just about everything Disney animation had done in the past, and as you noticed, even a few theme park attractions. Every time one of those popped up on screen, it felt like a poke in the forehead.<< I bet you're one of those awful people who are opposed to the characters in iasw too! But seriously, +1 on the getting-too-carried-away-with-the-references sentiment, both for the filmmakers and the fans. It's getting OLD. I preferred the good old days, when if you saw a "tribute" to an earlier movie, it was really just Disney recycling animation. Uncle Walt's innovation in Snow White wasn't that he made a really long cartoon, it was that EVERYTHING in that movie was in there in service to the audience's experiencing the story. I want Disney to cater to the fans, but they shouldn't let us lead them off-topic. This means you too, PIXAR.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I saw the film again, and I think I found a few more. I took notes on my phone so I wouldn't forget them like last time, so hopefully these make sense. In Charlotte's room during the ball, Tiana throws several toys at Naveen, and one of them appears to be Michael's teddy bear from Peter Pan. I had noticed the bear as being recognizable on the first viewing, but I couldn't really figure out where it was from. In the scene when we first see Dr Facilier's lair, one of the voodoo dolls looks like Lilo's doll. I'm not 100% sure what her doll looks like, but the one that I saw immediately reminded me of it. As the frogs fly away from the ball, they look back down at Stella, the dog, in a shot that looks a lot like Nanna from Peter Pan as the kids fly to Neverland. It could just be the droopy-looking dog looking up at characters flying away, but it seemed to be quite similar. It also looked like Kuzco was in the background of the ball. It was a quick shot, so I might have just mistaken him, but I'm pretty sure there are all sorts of hidden characters in that scene. As the frogs are getting chased down the table, we see someone dressed as Zorro, which I would assume is another reference. After the frogs land in bayou, Tiana stands up, covered with moss. She waves her moss-covered arm around, while stumbling around in the water. It looks really familiar, but I can't quite figure out from where. Anybody else notice it? I also noticed that the first scene in the bayou looked a lot like Snow White in the woods, but I think that was just more based on the 'scary wilderness' feeling of the scene than any of the actual shots being copies. When running away from the hunters, Tiana jumping through bayou looked a lot like the way that Simba dodged between the wildabeasts in the Lion King stampede. They both hop forward, bouncing from one side of the screen to the other, while the camera moves through the scene with them. I don't know if it was done on purpose, but they had a similar feeling. The LeBouf house looks like the entrance to Pirates at Disneyland. The grand staircase seemed like a combination of the ramps in the queue and the stairs up to the old Gallery. There was a little fountain in the middle of the stairs that was a bronze plate with a single stream of water coming out. I don't know if that was done on purpose, or if it was more to be true to the setting (like the above-ground graves in the graveyard scene looking like the graveyard in the Haunted Mansion, both because of the high water tables in New Orleans). The street sign in the parade scene that Tiana sits on top of is the intersection of Rue Orleans and Royal St, which looks suspiciously like one of the signs in New Orleans Square. I know the two streets are in DL, but I'm not sure if they intersect. Either way, the sign appears to be identical to the ones in the park. There was a parade float with a ship and moon on top of a cloud that looked like something from the Parade of the Stars in DL. I couldn't find a picture of it online, so it might just be because of the cloud base of the float with the random objects on top. I kept thinking in the bayou scenes that there had to be some sort of reference to The Rescuers. When Ray died, he was placed in a leaf that floated downstream that was a little similar to the way Evinrude moved the mice. There was never anybody pushing it like Evinrude did, so it's probably just a coincidence, but there's got to be something there. I feel like some of these are intentional (I saw the rug this time!), and some are probably wishful thinking, but I did notice that on a second viewing, the references didn't seem to be as interruptive as the first time.
