Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I hate when I my mind moves faster than my fingers. Sorry for all the typos. But I think you got the idea.>> It was a great post. I know all about typing fast ... I enjoyed the post so much (hope you don't mind) that I quoted it on another MAGICal site. ~Mom Doesn't Like Me!~
Originally Posted By cmash95 it's time to realise that what once was is no more. It's IGer's job to keep the stock prices up and btw he didn't take his bonus this year. and it's not iger that makes most of these decisions it;s rasulo. He is now consolidating his hold on the "disney Parks" it's rasulo and weis that are running this division and it's them that decided who would go. That's what happens when you have people who never worked at a theme park let alone run one, calling the shots. heck these guys still believe that the typical person coming to WDW are the one time casual tourist. IF that was true, then why do we have DVC?
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 <<heck these guys still believe that the typical person coming to WDW are the one time casual tourist. IF that was true, then why do we have DVC?>> Very good observation.
Originally Posted By MPierce What an excellent post sjhym33. For all those people that complain about negative posting on this board I suggest you read this post again from a former Disney CM, and a long time Disney fan. It's very telling. >>> Iger is just a product of corporate America. As CEO he has one job and that is to make a profit for the company. Since most of the stockholders for Disney are other corporations there is no one even talking about what the right thing to do is. The people running the company are all business majors who have never worked in the parks. They run the Disney Company as a business and decisions are made in terms of business. In the 1980's the policy at Disney was promotions happened from within. The feeling was that you needed to have lived in the Disney Company culture to understand what made the company unique and successful. After Eisner came aboard he gradually forced all the Walt and Roy people from their management into "retirement". I will never forget spending a morning with a VP of the WDW Property when Eisner was on property filming something. It was a busy day in the MK and the filming was creating havoc for the guests but when the VP approaced Eisner wrapping up he got a pretty good dressing down. As the VP walked away he looked at me and said "I dont think I will be around for much longer". He was gone within the year. Not too long after that we began to get new managers from outside the company. They had degrees and worked for companies like the Gap and other reatilers. They were very anti Disney culture. When you would try to tell them that Disney doesnt do things a certain way they would often give you a stare then say...this is the way we do things now. One of my last bosses (that I trained) ran an area of a couple of hundred CM's and dozens of attractions. He was clueless even several months into his time at Disney. He would often turn to me and say...What do we do? when something went wrong. Finally one day I said "Your in charge, you tell me" He kind of hemmed and hawd and said "What do you think we should do?" I said "I will do whatever you want me to do". So he made a decision (not a good one) and he got a talking to. He was mad that I didnt "support" him. I told him that he was obviously hired because of his talents and experience and it was his area and that I worked for him. and would support any decision he made. I was transferred 2 weeks later. That is a long round about way of saying that when you decide to chuck the things that made you great in the first place you shouldnt be surprised when quality falls. A couple of years ago I came to the decision that WDW would never again be the place that I loved and worked for. The people who remember and worked for Walt are long gone and much of the goundations they laid in the 70'a and 80's has been erased by psuedo Waltism. For a while I wouldnt even go on property. It was too depressing. Now I go and enjoy the things I like (including some great new things like Soarin) and remember what a great place it used to be. But the reality is that Disney is a BIG business and is run like one. Which is why the Walt guys built a park like EPCOT and the Eisner guys built DCA. <<<
Originally Posted By MPierce >> <<I hate when I my mind moves faster than my fingers. Sorry for all the typos. But I think you got the idea.>> It was a great post. I know all about typing fast ... I enjoyed the post so much (hope you don't mind) that I quoted it on another MAGICal site. << I have got to go read those responses. What section, and what's the title Spirit. I'm so far behind on my reading I'll never get caught up. Being retired is the hardest job I've ever had. >> ~Mom Doesn't Like Me!~ << It's not her fault Spirit. She tries really hard, but let's face it. You're not your brother.
Originally Posted By sjhym33 Thanks for the comments. I knew that the parks would change forever when the people I worked under (many of whom knew Walt) were forced out. It is a shame that it happened. Some of my fondest memories at my time at WDW was when my boss (who worked for Walt) would come in to my office, sit down and start telling Walt stories. He also would pass my office mid-day, back up and then ask me what I was doing in my office with so many guests in the park. Or the days he would call me on the radio and tell me to come to Grand Prix and he and I (in our shirts and ties) would open another track and jump cars so that the lines would be shorter.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I have got to go read those responses. What section, and what's the title Spirit. I'm so far behind on my reading I'll never get caught up. Being retired is the hardest job I've ever had.>> I can't remember. I am pretty sure it was on the WDW layoffs (that at least sounds right). But you should hurry. I think my 'moonlighting' on that site is coming to an end. I'm drowning in pixie dust and corporate spin. >> ~Mom Doesn't Like Me!~ << <<It's not her fault Spirit. She tries really hard, but let's face it. You're not your brother.>> No. I'm not. My brother can be one mean hombre ... I'm a much kinder gentler Spirit. ~Eight threads on phased closings is about nine too many!~
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt <<~Eight threads on phased closings is about nine too many!~>> I was begining to think I was the only one to notice this!!
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper >>But you should hurry. I think my 'moonlighting' on that site is coming to an end. I'm drowning in pixie dust and corporate spin.<< You can't abandon me! What will I do without you over there? Because, I mean apparently I am you lap dog and everything.
Originally Posted By MPierce ^^^If you agree with him over here you're called one of his merry men now.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<^If you agree with him over here you're called one of his merry men now.>> I know. Even though I've been saying the same thing since before he got there, all of a sudden I'm his follower.
Originally Posted By MPierce He's just such an easy going charmer. I'm pretty sure I know who you are over there. Does it start with an S?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Yea I figured, actually. I was called a bleeping idiot over there tonight because I didn't know how much a panda is to have at Animal Kingdom. Because obviously that is common knowledge.
Originally Posted By MousDad Interesting CNN article today about the layoffs at WDW. Apparently, an unidentified CM was let go the day after he/she received a decades of service award.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 ^^^How nice. Last year on Friday the 13th, my boss asked us if any of us were supersticious. We all joked about supersticions. An hour later he fired the secretary.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I was called a bleeping idiot over there tonight because I didn't know how much a panda is to have at Animal Kingdom. Because obviously that is common knowledge. << You mean the JC Skippers at the Magic Kingdom aren't told how much a Panda would cost at the Animal Kingdom if they could ever manage to wrangle one up? I would assume you would have been told that when you first started training!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Interesting CNN article today about the layoffs at WDW. Apparently, an unidentified CM was let go the day after he/she received a decades of service award. << Now that's some great PR for WDW.
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom Reminds me of the time KJ employeer set their worldwide "Presidential Acheivers" to Puerto Rico to the El Conquistidor.... while there KJ's employeer announced layoffs and layed off serval "Achievers" present.... In fact of the Atlanta crowd three people present got layed off while people who were skating through their jobs back in Atlanta kept their jobs. Oh I have lots of stories. Like the union person they wanted to promote to Management and he gave Human Resources his list of untimatiums. He angered Human Resources so much they layed off 9 people to "take him out" as he had seniority over those people. The business world can be pretty roughless when they want to be.
