Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "I have always thought that DLR's Fantasyland was much better than the one at WDW and that's a shame because there's so much more room at WDW. Maybe this will raise the bar a little." If they clean up and refreshen the existing FL attractions, the MK's Fantasyland will probably be better than DL's when the dust all settles. It'll definitely a lot bigger than DL's. Still, there's something missing....
Originally Posted By Mr F The new concept is lamer than the first concept. They're replacing the snow white dark ride with a lame princess meet n greet? They're building another kids coaster even though they are keeping the barnstormer? What is up with the "Great Goofini" theme? What does that have to do with Fantasyland? Why don't they just theme the ride to Casey Jr.? I don't know what those Florida execs are smoking, but they keep puking up lame ideas after lame ideas. First tiki room under new management, then replacing mr. toad with that piece of pooh, then the tragic carpets of Aladdin, then stitches lame escape, and now this lame excuse of an expansion? They might as well rename the land "Tragedyland". Once again, Disney has out DUMB themselves again!
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<They're building another kids coaster even though they are keeping the barnstormer>> It's much more than a "kiddie coaster". <<What is up with the "Great Goofini" theme? What does that have to do with Fantasyland?>> It's not in Fantasyland. It's in Storybook Circus.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Isn't the princess meet and greet they have planned inside the current Snow White attraction just meant to be a temporary fix, anyway? I know we had read that SOMEwhere around here. Somebody had reported that a more permanent meet and greet for the princesses would end up over where the former skyway area is. Then a bonafide dark ride for either Rapunzel or Sleeping Beauty is supposed to take over the former Snow White dark ride. Or was somebody just blowing smoke to fool a cauldron girl???
Originally Posted By Bob Paris 1 Funny how when I read about Gaston's tavern, my first thought was of the 3 Broomsticks for HP at IOA. Disney - once again reacting and once more behind the curve. So friggin sad.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> The new concept is lamer than the first concept. They're replacing the snow white dark ride with a lame princess meet n greet? They're building another kids coaster even though they are keeping the barnstormer? What is up with the "Great Goofini" theme? What does that have to do with Fantasyland? Why don't they just theme the ride to Casey Jr.? I don't know what those Florida execs are smoking, but they keep puking up lame ideas after lame ideas. First tiki room under new management, then replacing mr. toad with that piece of pooh, then the tragic carpets of Aladdin, then stitches lame escape, and now this lame excuse of an expansion? They might as well rename the land "Tragedyland". Once again, Disney has out DUMB themselves again! << This kind of attitude is a perfect example of overheated fanboi vitriol. How the hell is this concept "lamer than the first"? (Almost) Everyone complained the first one had too many MGs. Complained they wanted another D-ticket ride to make the expansion more alluring. They cut out some of the MGs. They take out the ridiculed coloring with Aurora joke. They add what appears to be a substantial, ambitious dark ride, replacing what is in many people's minds is the weakest of the FL dark rides. ...And this concept is lamer than the first? Sorry. I'm not seeing it.
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct << (Almost) Everyone complained the first one had too many MGs. Complained they wanted another D-ticket ride to make the expansion more alluring. >> Agreed. knock it off. The whole thing looks awesome. The snow white ride was so bad. And from a family's perspective, it will be nice and easy to just go under the castle and "on the right" have all the meet and greets in one tidy area. Logistically is seems logical. The wooded new fantasyland looks to be stunning, charming and full of eye candy. -*squeal* indeed. I am so psyched. The circus area looks fun and I love how it is all off to one side. Again - it's logical. What do I want in addition!? what is missing from all this? - How about a new dark ride to the left of small world where that god awful skyway lived. Wouldn't Pinocchio fit nicely there? How about a Honey Hunt ride system?
Originally Posted By brotherdave I'm very much excited to see the new Seven Dwarf coaster. A definite improvement over the original Princess Meet&Greet-land. However, I will mourn the loss of Snow White's Scary Adventures, especially since the M&G will positioned there. Why can't they use the old Skyway station for the Meet&Greets if they are THAT dead set to have them? Or is that part of the grander Phase III portion of the plan? Why not just repurpose one of the old Toontown Fair tents (which they are obviously keeping as seen in the artwork) into a "Royal" tent for meeting the Princesses until something better is built? Here's hoping that a new dark ride will replace SWSA sooner than later if they really must remove it!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>"How do European Princesses fit in with turn of the century America?"<<< I'd deal with it. LOL.
Originally Posted By dennis-in-ct Ok .... I just turned my iPad back on to post again. I am still excited and thinking about this expansion. I am excited for the restaurant experience. It seems like a much needed decent (sit down) food option first of all. And second of all it sounds like a Disney Cruise ship themed dining experience like the animator's palette. How cool will it be to have the Beauty and Beast characters interact with you etc. Also - we all talk about immersive queues such as Indy Jones in CA. Well, the new mine train ride will have a little village to set the stage. I am giddy. What negative can I say? what will I miss? I really liked the Mickey and Minne houses a lot. I am very very sad to see THOSE area go. They were sooooo cute and well done. Go WDW !!!!! Maybe I'll buy a DVC now nah .... But I am whooped up into a giddy frenzy
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I'd deal with it. LOL.>> So it's okay to break theme when it's of greatest value to you? Haha
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>So it's okay to break theme when it's of greatest value to you? Haha<<< If it saves a ride, it's worth it...
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper So if it saved the Tiki Room you'd put Stitch in it? And what if Nemo had been the only choice in saving the Seas?
Originally Posted By leobloom EE, given the choice between 1) keeping Snow White as is and no mine train or 2) getting mine train and losing Snow White, which would you prefer? I prefer the way it's happening, because there's still the chance that the MG eventually is turned into another dark ride.
Originally Posted By avimagine Well will they open SWSA when attendance deems a la COP, and the former pavilions at Epcot?
Originally Posted By Manfried I like the new stuff, generally. I am glad they are finally doing something new and different and losing the Snow White dark ride is fine with me. I do miss Mr. Toad, though the queue line for Pooh is nice. EE just doesn't want to let anything old go. The Magic Kingdom needs this badly.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Well will they open SWSA when attendance deems a la COP, and the former pavilions at Epcot?>> SWSA is being completely gutted.
Originally Posted By The Duck We're not losing a Snow White ride. We're gaining a bigger, better Snow White ride.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<The whole thing looks awesome. The snow white ride was so bad. And from a family's perspective, it will be nice and easy to just go under the castle and "on the right" have all the meet and greets in one tidy area. Logistically is seems logical.>> Dennis, dude ... I think you are on a pixie dust high. Please don't jump out the window thinking you can fly! This is going to be (hopefully) a quality D-Ticket attraction. And Snow White's current attraction is only so bad because no one in TDO has apparently ever seen the film and understand that it is DARK AND SCARY and have neutered the things worse than a stray puppy. You've been on it in Paris, I presume? The Paris and Tokyo versions haven't been watered down because some impressionable 4-year-old might get scared on it. <<The wooded new fantasyland looks to be stunning, charming and full of eye candy. -*squeal* indeed. I am so psyched.>> It looks better by far, no doubt. Stunning? DLP is stunning. TDS is beyond stunning. ... this is ... very nice. <<The circus area looks fun and I love how it is all off to one side. Again - it's logical. What do I want in addition!? what is missing from all this? - How about a new dark ride to the left of small world where that god awful skyway lived. Wouldn't Pinocchio fit nicely there? How about a Honey Hunt ride system?>> HAH?!??! You think you'll ever see that ride system in the USA? Even after OLC paid to develop the thing? Hell, Disney is trying to backtrack from using it in HKDL's Mystic Manor to save money. Disney wants things cheap. This project is still cheap. And who knows what corners will be cut before it is all done ... but it will look great as concept art in a fanboi coffee table book! ~Nice, but too little, too late~
