Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Oh, I've stayed there plenty of times in the past, but I've moved up to Moderate because I love some of them. But the values are fun.
Originally Posted By danyoung >It is just Disney's thinking that lower income people relate better to tacky and garish.< Oh, c'mon. The average customer of a Disney value resort is 2 parents with kids and the need to save a buck. Kids like all the kitchy decor, and the parents like the price. Do you think there's a parent on the planet who would prefer giant yo-yo's and bowling pins to the elegant and beautifully landscaped walk around the Lago Dorado Lagoon in the Coronado Springs Resort?
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<Plus, the only time most people are in the rooms are to sleep or take a break. You don't go to Disney World to sit in a hotel room. Just my humble opinion. >> I agree. I would love to stay at the Poly or the Grand Floridian, but in the end I can't justify spending the extra money when we only spend a few waking hours in the room. That said, I do prefer the moderates to the values, but in the end we don't pay that much more for the mods.
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 Come on Nikki, you stay at The Dixie, other than you gotta take a bus anywhere you go (except DTD) IMHO the Dixie could be a deluxe hotel. It's beautiful and you don't get treated any worse than at a deluxe.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I agree. I would love to stay at the Poly or the Grand Floridian, but in the end I can't justify spending the extra money when we only spend a few waking hours in the room. That said, I do prefer the moderates to the values, but in the end we don't pay that much more for the mods.<<< Agreed. However, if in was affluent enough to stay in the Poly, or the Tempo, or and other Resort, imwould takemthe time to enjoy my hotel, too. Especially Poly.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Aren't the new suites going to be the same basic floorplan as the ones that were converted from existing rooms at the All Star Music? If they are, then I suspect it would be pretty easy to convert the existing buildings. I'm not familiar with the layout of those suites, but they are comprised of a pair of neighboring rooms. I had assumed that they were rooms that were off of the same walkway, but it's entirely possible that they are two rooms that stretch the width of the building, connecting on the 'short' wall where the bathroom and sink area are. If that's the case, then they won't need the walkway on the 'other' side of the building, allowing it to just be a flat wall. While the finish on the building in the drawing doesn't look the same, it does have the same general shape as the All Stars and Pop Century buildings. It's the same height, and has the inset area behind Crush where the stairs and elevators are. Given that a couple of these buildings already exist, I would be very surprised if they were building new ones with a central indoor hallway.
Originally Posted By NikkiLOVESMickey <<Come on Nikki, you stay at The Dixie, other than you gotta take a bus anywhere you go (except DTD)>> Yep, and it only costs us about $600 more total than the values, so I don't mind it. A deluxe would cost us almost $2000 more - and that's Wilderness Lodge, which is one of the cheaper deluxes.
Originally Posted By DisneyDefender davewasbaloo said:**I would never stay in a value resort at WDW, and frankly I am not sure if I am likely to stay on property again given the sub par service. However, disney has made neat themed value resorts before: <a href="http://hotels.disneylandparis....ex.xhtml" target="_blank">http://hotels.disneylandparis....ex.xhtml</a># I HATE IGER, and everything he is doing to the resorts around the globe. That SOB is clueless (or maybe he isn't, the masses will accept anything)** I hate Iger too. He's a bigger dumber beancounter than even Eisner, who stupidly bought the Muppets. There isn't a creative bone in Iger's body - every new development is based on marketing, not on a creative idea. I hope he gets kicked out the door very very soon.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Eisner wasn't an accountant. He was more based in the creative side of things, and it was his lack of a financial background that ultimately led him to make some decisions that caused him to leave. I'm not sure of Iger's background, but he is not an accountant either, though he does have more pure business experience. Just because the Disney company is changing from what it was 30 years ago doesn't mean it's a bad thing.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 I don't think it was stupid to buy the mUppets - but I do think it was stupid to buy them and then do nothing with the franchise.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Aren't the new suites going to be the same basic floorplan as the ones that were converted from existing rooms at the All Star Music? If they are, then I suspect it would be pretty easy to convert the existing buildings. >> FA - the existing buildings that are only in concrete form aren't be converted into suites - those three buildings with exterior corridors (the hallmark of the value resorts) are going to remain hotel rooms and themed to The Little Mermaid. The remaining pads will be used for the new suite blocks - there are no existing buildings on those pads at present. Hence the interior corridors and flat frontages.
Originally Posted By leemac <<I'm not sure of Iger's background>> He is rather uneducated for one of the highest CEOs in the business. He studied his undergrad at Ithaca College with a BS in TV & Radio (who knew it was a science?). He started work as a local weatherman before joining ABC in the mid-seventies. He was well-liked and popular and shuffled around corporate offices a lot. He worked at virtually every major unit of ABC/Cap Cities until he was President/COO at the time of the Disney merger. Tom Murphy adored Bob - he really was his protege. It sounds like there won't be any LP-sponsored parties to celebrate Bob's fifth anniversary at the helm in two weeks time (it is October 1). Off to bed.....
Originally Posted By MousDad >>BS in TV & Radio (who knew it was a science?).<< Gotta be resume "artistic license." TV/Radio is always BA.
Originally Posted By MousDad I have a question. If "lower income people" stay at the Disney Values, then what do we call people who stay offsite in much nicer, actual hotel/resorts, that have the same or better ameneties, are just as close to the parks, for half the price?
Originally Posted By danyoung You call those people "ME". For many years I stayed offsite, at hotels that cost on average less than $50 a night. It took quite a financial committment to come up to the level of staying on site. Now I can't imagine doing it any other way.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Whereas I was always in adulthood an on site guy. Until I noticed the quality was poor compared to other hotels of similar pricepoints, and then tried staying off site at DLP and had a much better time. Bus waits, smelly crowds, contemptable cast members and poorly maintained hotels are not my idea of magic.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I hate Iger too. He's a bigger dumber beancounter than even Eisner, who stupidly bought the Muppets. There isn't a creative bone in Iger's body - every new development is based on marketing, not on a creative idea. I hope he gets kicked out the door very very soon.<<< I agree...and the parks seem to get ignored and just made into a profit machine. As long as they make money off of them...quality and having a superior product is forgotten. Terrible. I'd take a 1990's Eisner ANY DAY.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>He started work as a local weatherman before joining ABC in the mid-seventies<<< Hee hee. He hates that fact.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I have a question. If "lower income people" stay at the Disney Values, then what do we call people who stay offsite in much nicer, actual hotel/resorts, that have the same or better ameneties, are just as close to the parks, for half the price?<<< SMART. That's all I do. Why pay 75-90 bucks for out door corridors when I can pay 60-80 for Indoor Corridors, Dream Beds, and free breakfast? I would only stay in Disney if I can hit a upper end hotel. Value isn't worth it.
