Originally Posted By TMICHAEL Sorry but with all this PC bullpucky from a few on here, I'm over it. This idiot came to this country as a Muslim, she didn't convert. She now, as a new American citizen, is testing the waters of the legal system, with help from a bully union, in a loosing battle. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together, knows the difference between on stage costuming that Disney supplies to EVERY SINGLE CAST MEMBER IN EVERY ONSTAGE ROLL IN THE THEME PARKS AND HOTELS and office cast members who wear their own business attire. If she was in the offices or back stage, she has already been cleared BY HER EMPLOYER to wear her own hajib. On stage she must wear what Disney dictates, PERIOD! On stage costuming is just that COSTUMING and every cast member is SUPPOSED to look the same in their respective work locations. And here's a news flash: Disney is the employer, they will cast you in the roll they see fit. Absolutely nobody is entitled to work on stage with the guests. If Disney requires you to move back stage, then you move back stage. Only an idiot would refuse a new position MULTIPLE TIMES and risk loosing their job..... ESPECIALLY to be able to wear your own hijab. But I feel this really isn't about that anyways. And now, after repeatedly refusing Disney's offers to support her and her religious views, she is off the schedule. Every single offer has been in good faith, none were a step backwards. Sucks to be her.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Maybe, but it the viewpoint regarding onstage costuming is valid in my opinion.
Originally Posted By pleiades357 People get confused about this... having rights does not mean the right to do anything you want anywhere you are and make other people change their everything to match your manifestation. She has the right to work and the employer has the right to set standards. She can work somewhere her chosen garb is permitted, for a new employer if needed. Soapbox: There are an awful lot of people still in their pubescent rebellion, some of them are civic leaders, I hear it all the time like YOU CAN"T TELL ME WHAT TO DO living in a society means some degree of conformity...most of it arrived at because it works... but the power to make others do what you want has never been more empowered, throw the baby bottle to see mother pick it up and return it. Sad when people are still doing that in their 30's. Worse when they become empowered by leaders who have the same mentality. I'm always amazed when people who come from a society that demands such conformity and gives fewer rights to women complain about their rights in America. Doesn't that seem contradictory? You won't let me wear the clothing my culture demands I wear... I understand, she want to conform to her culture not her other culture... or she just decide she can be a hero and a center of attention and maybe make some money or get on oprah... without having 8 kids... or get her own reality tv show
Originally Posted By barboy2 ///American culture is an amalgamation of many cultures./// Well naturally..... .......and one could say that about every nation for to be a truly culturally pure state its population would have had to be perfectly isolated from the rest of the world in its language, faith, food, governing system, technologies etc...... So just like every other nation the US is a "cultural mut".
Originally Posted By Dole_Whip_Adventure In my opinion, this really has nothing to do with religion. She knew the dress code, she knew the rules. It's also unsettling that the headscarf is meant to be a symbol of modesty, but her decision to make this a huge issue as anything but modest!! She was offered a different job, but just decided not to show up for work. What does that say about her as an employee? Definitely not someone I would hire. Give her job to someone who actually cares about it, not someone looking for attention and publicity. She really has no case here in my opinion. She knew not to wear it, just like I know I can't show up at my job showing off my tattoos.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "She knew not to wear it, just like I know I can't show up at my job showing off my tattoos." I don't disagree, but the difference here is that her religious garb could be considered religious expression, which is protected under her constitutional rights. As said before, the question is where do her protected rights and the rights of the business intersect or overlap.
Originally Posted By pleiades357 Another condition of course is that if the dress code is changed for her religious expression allowance must be made for others... the Lingayats will show up with Lingas around their necks...
Originally Posted By ecdc And now, two years later, the ex-employee has sued the park over discrimination. <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/disney-sued-muslim-employee-discrimination-lawsuit-361329" target="_blank">http://www.hollywoodreporter.c...t-361329</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt >>“Disneyland calls itself the happiest place on earth, but I faced harassment as soon as I started working there,” she said. “It only got worse when I decided to wear a hijab. My journey towards wearing it couldn’t have been more American; it began at my naturalization ceremony. I realized that I had the freedom to be who I want and freely practice my religion. Neither Disney nor anyone else can take that from me.”<< And there's nothing more American than taking your case to court.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>"The law requires that employers accommodate employee’s religious beliefs or practices," comments David deRubertis, an employment lawyer in California not connected with the case.<< Isn't that what Disney did? I'm confused. When she started working there, she did not wear the hijab. After a few years, she began to wear it, and Disney made accommodations. Much like the ADA requirements for accessibility, the law recognizes that accommodations by nessecity won't be perfect (that whole separate but equal is inherently unequal thing), but businesses are supposed to do their best. Other than the act of wearing the hijab, and Disney's move to allow it, the article didn't cite any other specific instances of anti-Muslim sentiment, though it certainly implied it was an ongoing issue. As I seem to remember from when this story first came up, it appears that she's trying to get attention (and maybe some money from the big corporation), so that may explain why the circumstances are so odd
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Depending on the evidence she's going to have to have a hard time proving that Disney and its management conspired, encouraged or actively participated in discriminating against her. Surely she isn't the only Muslim working at DLR. I wonder what other Muslim cast members have to say about their experiences working for Disney.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Edit: Depending on the evidence she's going to have a hard time ...
