Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Amaze and Bedazzle were our stage names when we used to work the pole.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Eventually security does come along and remove empty blankets...They also require 2 people to hold a bench...but Disney also moves benches at the last minute for parades or special reserved seating areas. They are attempting to "discourage" some of the behavior.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***What are ECVs?*** <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2BTV2eUyts" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...TV2eUyts</a>
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I'm not usually one to feel empathy for anyone or anything, but I feel very badly for Dream Tours Florida right now. https://www.facebook.com/pages/Dream-Tours-Inc/147403695865 They are hiring a defamation lawyer and are going to fight this. It's funny how everybody calls the New York Post a tabloid, but suddenly they are the most trusted name in news about this.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Don't feel too badly, they probably aren't as innocent as they are claiming on their facebook page...
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones What I think is that people want to shame the 1% and are willing to steamroll a company that offers tours to disabled people to do it based off information in a tabloid.
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 What I think is that people want to shame the 1% and are willing to steamroll a company that offers tours to disabled people to do it based off information in a tabloid.<< Idiots will be idiots, and if you go to ANY public facebook page you will find people acting like asses. if they truly are innocent then they will be exonerated in the court and get a nice hefty settlement...
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Here's what would outrage me. If they hired disabled people to give tours *and* paid them a pittance. If they hired disbaled people to give tours and allowed them to keep 50%-75% of their earnings, I would absolutely applaud that, though certainly it would be Disney's right to try to stop it from happening on their property. I think the way we treat disabled people in this country incentivizes them to stay on the public dole and not overcome their disability. It's not the assistance, it's the limits placed on it that incentivize people to strategically place themselves in this balance where they reduce work hours to maximize benefits. I would raise the limits of what you could earn while on SSI higher and at some point just let them write it off on their taxes instead of making it some monthly payment. Then again there are many on disability who should not be on it. I think a disabled person who resorts to this does so because we have made it so that it's too damn expensive to hire them. You can't ask a prospective disabled person about their disability. You are not allowed to let them explain how it's not going to affect the work. You have employers running scared by the Americans with Disabilities Act, which I believe actually reduces hours worked by disabled people. The whole thing is ass backwards, which is why this story, if true, doesn't really get me to grab the pitchforks. It's liberals who think they know what's best for the disabled and just want to engage in class warfare. I see the disabled as taking advantage of the rich jerks because I don't think you get that much when you're disabled at Disneyland. Is it truly a front of the line pass? I doubt it.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones Disabled unemployment has always been much higher than the regular rate, and I wonder how much of that is just make work and menial jobs. There is a stigma that if you have a speech impediment or even a missing limb, you aren't that smart even if your brain is solid. I think a lot of disabled people fall into that trap. So you get stuck in those crappy jobs.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Apparently Disney is taking this seriously and has launched an investigation: <a href="http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/05/16/inside-the-disney-world-line-skipping-allegations-how-the-1-does-disney/" target="_blank">http://newsfeed.time.com/2013/...-disney/</a> “It is unacceptable to abuse accommodations that were designed for guests with disabilities,” Disney spokesman Bryan Malenius told CNN Wednesday. “We are thoroughly reviewing the situation and will take appropriate steps to deter this type of activity.”
Originally Posted By Kennesaw Tom It is fundamentally dishonest. Disney, as well as other theme park establishments have created these sort of policies clearly to help a group of families have a better, more pleasant Disney experience. Disney has onsite tour guides for a fee if quests require. This tour guide company exploits Disney's policy as well as undermines Disney guides. The policy was created for families not for tour guides. Completely different. Other than that, I have no problem with a Orlando based tour company hiring disabled individuals.
Originally Posted By sjhym333 Disney allows outside tour guides to operate at the theme parks but they are required to go thru an approval process that includes providing proof of insurance and a business licenses to Disney. The most visible ones are the tour groups from South America. I think Disney understands that their tour guides offer a different experience then a large group of teens for instance.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros After the infamous Jim Hill tour break-up about a decade ago, I wonder how this group managed to get by for so long. It seems like their concept (small groups for private tours of the parks) is in direct competition with Disney's offerings, so I can't imagine they had ever been approved. It will be interesting to see how this all pans out
