Originally Posted By Anatole69 I just don't get the no love for Princess and the Frog. It's one of my favorite Disney films and although I know it had its detractors, I would think the level of craft in the film would lift it above many of the other movies on the list. - Anatole
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: I would have preferred that a movie about the original fairytale The Frog Prince had been made instead. Princess & the Frog is to abstract for me. It comes across as a contrived excuse to be the first Disney animated movie with a black heroine. Why couldn't they have written an original story for Disney's first black princess that didn't have to ride on the coat tails of an existing fairy tale?
Originally Posted By Evening Star Mufaro's Beautiful Daughters would have been a better film. But P&tF has it's moments of beauty as well.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: I've never heard of Mufaro's Beautiful Daughters, Evening Star, duckling. Who were they?
Originally Posted By Evening Star <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Mufaros-Beautiful-Daughters-Book-Mulberry/dp/0688129358/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1296520034&sr=8-1" target="_blank">http://www.amazon.com/Mufaros-...4&sr=8-1</a> It's a children's book much like Cinderella. Though the events are very different; it would have translated well to the big screen and animation.
Originally Posted By u k fan <<<Ow ... my forehead just went THROUGH the desk. <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0029843/>>>" target="_blank">http://www.imdb.com/title/tt00...>></a> Mawnck, anyone other than you and I'd have been concerned I was about to see Kevin Costner's face! I find it surprising that they've picked Disney's Robin over this one, but as I say Disney's RH feels like part of most people's childhood here. It's almost part of our culture!!!
Originally Posted By mawnck >>Mawnck, anyone other than you and I'd have been concerned I was about to see Kevin Costner's face!<< Who? ;-)
Originally Posted By ttalovebug Bolt? Please. It's nice when underrated films get some love, but no way it's superior to at least half of the ones ranked behind it. Pcoahontas is one of my favorite Disney films, and it's ranking bothers me. I agree that, though it has its historical problems, it's a truly beautiful movie. Gorgeous animation and character design, and I've always loved that it has a more mature air to it than most Disney films, especially with it's not-so happily ever after ending. I consider the ending of Pocahontas my favorite out of all Disney films. Sometimes a sad conclusion makes you feel so much more than a happy one does, because you can usually relate so much more. Plus, that scene is so well done, especially the way the score swells as Pocahontas runs to see the ship. Just watch that ending scene on Youtube if you haven't seen it in a while. IMO, it's one of the most moving moments in animation. It feels real. I still mantain that if the deleted song "If I Never Knew You" had been in the theatrical version, the film would have done better. It makes everything more effective. 101 Dalmations' ranking was a bit suprising as well. Maybe I should watch it again.......?
Originally Posted By xrayvision I like Rotten Tomatoes but don't agree with this list. Why is Hunchback so low on this list. It's a beautiful movie with a great musical score. I'd Exchange ""Bolt" with "Hunchback" for No 11 to make this list more palatable.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<I still mantain that if the deleted song "If I Never Knew You" had been in the theatrical version, the film would have done better. It makes everything more effective>> I so agree with this! I remember the first time I saw that segment - which they showed in rough animation one time Pocahontas was on tv - and it just really made me fall in love with the movie. It really helps make the love between Pocahontas and John Smith more poignant. And then when they added the reprise to the ending scene when they say good-bye - talk about tears! ;-)
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: I love that song from Pocahontas, too, Plpeters70, duckling. I think the reason they cut it from the movie was because the children squirmed in their seats when it was played to a test audience years ago. The producers at the time worried that if children didn't accept it, it should be cut. But it IS a shame. It's the prettiest song written for the whole movie as far as I'm concerned.
Originally Posted By basil fan To each his own. I'd rate Jungle Book a solid 4th place, and while I admire the individual segments of Fantasia, I find the whole too ponderous for my taste. Anybody catch Rotten Tomatoes' description of Dinosaur? "...its stunning computer animation and detailed backgrounds are enough to make it worth a look." Detailed backgrounds? They were live-action, guys.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Well, they did do a good job of making them move just right with the CGI, so a lot of detail went into setting them up. : ) What I still find incredible about Dinosaur is how good the CGI still looks. It always seems like you can tell what's real and what's fake by the lighting. CGI just tends to look pale and plastic-ey in comparison. It's gotten a lot better in the last 2-3 years, but you can still pick it out pretty easily. Most older uses of CGI look really bad by today's standards (like Waldo in MuppetVision), but it seems like the effects in Dinosaur have held up quite well. Yah, some things are better than others (the lemurs all look a little off, and the cave scenes aren't quite right), but it's pretty impressive how good it looks overall.
Originally Posted By Socrates Was anyone else surprised that "Oliver & Co." was rated so low? I thought it was a delightful film and the animation comeback really started with it. Or am I completely out of it? Socrates "The unexamined life is not worth living."
Originally Posted By u k fan I'm afraid Oliver & Company doesn't do much for me although I thought the music was good!!!
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: I always hate it whenever Disney substitutes humans for animals in an established story--like they did with Robin Hood or Oliver. With all the many animal stories that are out there already, that's just ridiculous to me. Besides, Disney already did a live action version of Robin Hood years ago. It starred Richard Todd and was very good--much better than the animated nightmare they produced years later.
Originally Posted By basil fan I like Robin Hood, though not as much as some people. It does surprise me to see what a huge loyal following it has.
Originally Posted By mawnck >>It does surprise me to see what a huge loyal following it has.<< If I dood it, I get a whippin'. -----> *** FURRIES!!! *** <----- I dood it!
Originally Posted By Bellella I'm quite a bit nonplussed at the fact that Bolt scored higher than The Jungle Book. I mean, Jungle Book is a CLASSIC. From what I've seen of Bolt, it doesn't look too promising, but not quite a bad film. Lilo & Stitch scoring higher than Alice in Wonderland? Who do they think they're kidding? Truth be told, I found it to be quite funny, but there was one part with some live action that freaked the bejesus out of me. Treasure Planet higher than The Sword in the Stone? Robin Hood at #46? As if!!! Both those films should have scored higher!!
Originally Posted By u k fan I'd put Treasure Planet above SITS and L&S above Alice, but are you confusing the live action version with the animated one?!!!
