Originally Posted By leemac <<So did DLP negotiate with Starbucks on their own? Could DLP allow Starbucks inside the parks without the confirmation of TWDC?>> The real estate team negotiated directly with Starbucks for the DV location - it is company owned and operated and not a licensed location too. Segafredo has the exclusive deal inside the parks (and cast areas). They have supplied all of the equipment (c.600 espresso machines). Starbucks cannot be served inside the berm of either park.
Originally Posted By dagobert Then why is it possible in the US? doesn't Nestle have such a deal? However since I like Segafredo, I'm fine.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Then why is it possible in the US? doesn't Nestle have such a deal?>> It doesn't. Starbucks isn't "the official coffee of WDW" either. This is just a plain old fashioned licensing deal.
Originally Posted By dagobert So Segafredo is the official coffee of DLP, that is offered at hotels, parks and Disney owned restaurants? I guess it's the same with Coca Cola. Is Group Flo is included in these contracts, or can they offer other beverages, like Red Bull instead of Burn, in their restaurants in DV?
Originally Posted By mele We went to the DCA Starbucks almost every day during our 6 day trip. The lines in the morning were long but it was worth it to get the coffee I wanted. I didn't even think the prices were unreasonable (considering it's DL). We are THRILLED it's there!
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ Sorry - industry-speak. RDE=Retail, Dining and Entertainment. Basically a Downtown Disney.
Originally Posted By danyoung >I've still not been inside that SBs - the line is always out the door.< Nobody goes to that crappy Starbucks any more - it's too crowded. . . . .
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt <<Nobody goes to that crappy Starbucks any more - it's too crowded.>> OK, Yogi!!
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 I really can't understand people being upset with this at all considering Disneyland's (and Walt Disney world's) early histories with sponsors. I suppose it's people who only know recent decades where there were no sponsor-operated stores or restaurants inside the parks. But from opening to about the mid 1980's? Sponsors were all over the place. So, a few Starbucks stores in the parks is pretty much harkening back to Walt-era practices, so...yeah, don't see the big deal about it.
Originally Posted By jkayjs Aloha Isle...Dole whip! I could be wrong but I'm bettin' Disney isn't giving Dole free advertising.
Originally Posted By danyoung >OK, Yogi!!< Hey, that response was ninety percent mental and the other half is physical.
Originally Posted By DlandDug I'm with gurgitoy on this. The idea that having a Starbucks inside the theme park corrupts Walt's original vision is just anti-historical. Walt Disney personally pitched a number of American corporations to sponsor-- and advertise-- their presence inside Disneyland. Just a short list off the top of my head: Hills Brothers Coffee House; Welches Grape Juice stands; Frito's Casa Mexicana; Coca Cola Refreshment Corner; Pepsi Cola Golden Horseshoe revue (with Pepsi logos on the show curtain and menus!); Stouffer's Plaza Pavilion; Dole Pineapple stand; Swift Market House (with a model butcher shop offering Swift products); The American Egg House (I am not making this up). That's just food venues. There are countless examples of other corporate sponsors who were allowed to plaster their names and logos all over the attractions. Monsanto... General Electric... General Dynamics... Santa Fe... Eastern Air Lines... and on and on. Walt would probably be pleased as punch to have a long-term, multi-park deal with a successful American company like Starbucks.
Originally Posted By danyoung What no one wants is a Starbucks that looks like every other Starbucks in the country, in a themed area like Main Street. And I think it's probably safe to trust Disney to theme it correctly.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Probably? There's already a precedent: <a href="http://www.disneyfoodblog.com/2012/08/02/dining-in-disneyland-fiddler-fifer-practical-cafe-with-starbucks/" target="_blank">http://www.disneyfoodblog.com/...arbucks/</a>
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt So the place has barely opened and fans are already complaining about the look of the new location on MiceAge (what a surprise). Honestly though, they could have done a better job, especially in light of the lavishly detailed stuff they've produced over in Fantasyland lately. Unless there's more work to be done at the MK store, DCA has the better Starbucks so far. I'm curious to see how the Main Street location at DL turns out.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros Yah, I think most of the reactions are a little over the top. From the pictures I've seen, it could be a little better, but it's entirely in line with what I expected. Once the crowds show up (and I'm sure they will) I think people will be glad that it's laid out more efficiently to get guests on with their visit to the park, rather than devoting a large area to seating There was also a cover story on Yahoo about it the other day (though in all fairness, most of their stories are complete garbage and this one was no exceptio). Nothing new, but I'm really surprised how much coverage this is getting, since the DCA location has been open for a full year already In addition to comparing the DL and MK Main Street versions, I'm also interested to see what they do with the Future World theme in Epcot. Since they could take it in almost any direction, there's a ton of flexibility (and none of the nostalgia, since few people ever waxed poetic about the Fountain View)
Originally Posted By tashajilek I like the Starbucks in DCA, but I waited almost 30 mins once which was crazy. In Las Vegas their busy locations have a separate line for drip coffee and pastries only. I wish Disney would do this too.
