Originally Posted By danyoung There is a really excellent, photo filled article about it on easywdw.com, including comparison photos with what was formerly there.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "From the pictures I've seen, it could be a little better, but it's entirely in line with what I expected." Same here. I'm going to put on my Apologist Hat and say that it is entirely possible that DCA's location was blessed with a bigger budget because Disney was rolling the dice with the "new" DCA. There was very little skimping on BV Street, if any, and the Fiddler Fifer & Practical Cafe project was just one piece of a larger program at that park. Therefore, I'm not expecting DL's to be as extravagantly designed, but we'll see. "I like the Starbucks in DCA, but I waited almost 30 mins once which was crazy." Geez. I would have said something after about 5 minutes. People have rides to ride!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "There is a really excellent, photo filled article about it on easywdw.com, including comparison photos with what was formerly there." Do you mean this article: <a href="http://www.easywdw.com/uncategorized/main-street-bakery-reopens/#more-11324" target="_blank">http://www.easywdw.com/uncateg...re-11324</a> OAN, look at this view from the cafe patio. You certainly won't get this at DL's Starbucks when it opens: <a href="http://www.easywdw.com/reports8/trbghzsds26.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.easywdw.com/reports...ds26.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA I always liked corporate sponsorship in the Disney theme parks. Good-Year was a sponsor of PeopleMover Wonder Bread was a sponsor at Country Bear Jamboree PSA sponsored CircleVision 360 -- before that it was Bell Telephone - I remember that huge post-show area dedicated to Bell. Monsanto sponsored Adventure Thru InnerSpace (which we referred to as 'Monsanto') Space Mountain sponsored by FedEx at one point it's a small world was sponsored by Bank of America Pendleton sponsored a store in Frontierland So having Starbucks seems like a good fit to me.
Originally Posted By danyoung >Do you mean this article:< Yup. That link will put you in the middle of the article. Just scan up to the start.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Plus, look at the difference between the menu that used to be at Main Street Bakery and the one that is there now with Starbucks. More options. Better quality. Boom!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>...it is entirely possible that DCA's location was blessed with a bigger budget because Disney was rolling the dice with the "new" DCA. There was very little skimping on BV Street, if any, and the Fiddler Fifer & Practical Cafe project was just one piece of a larger program at that park.<< It also benefited from the project being a total reconstruction from what was there before. They completely gutted all of the buildings in the Sunshine Plaza (not that there was much before) and built completely different interiors. For Main Street, they're taking one vaguely-Victorian themed interior and reconfiguring it to a different vaguely-Victorian themed interior. I'm expecting slightly more from DL's version, as we've heard that they're moving walls. They're taking 2-3 existing shops and turning them into 1, so they're doing a little more work anyway, and the layout will change more. In WDW, I'm pretty sure they just rearranged within the existing walls
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "So having Starbucks seems like a good fit to me." I agree Jim. For DCA I would have liked to have had a California based brand, but Starbucks does fit the Disney culture. "I'm expecting slightly more from DL's version, as we've heard that they're moving walls." OK, so it'll be a bit more maybe in terms of build out, but I'd be surprised if the finished product is as elaborate as DCA's. I could be wrong though... the most recent Main Street upgrades have been exceptional.
Originally Posted By danyoung >They completely gutted all of the buildings in the Sunshine Plaza (not that there was much before) and built completely different interiors.< I'm thinking they did much more than this. The old buildings curved around to the right with the train. I'm thinking the buildings there are completely new, inside and out.
Originally Posted By dagobert I have to admit that I like the new Starbucks on Main Street. I can hardly remember how it looked before, but Starbucks looks fine. I'm surprised about the old logo. I thought I read in the Howard Schultz book "onward" that Starbucks changed the mermaid, because it revealed too much. However I like the old one better, they already used it at DLRP when Starbucks opened in 2008.
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn I hope they have ice cubes. I always ask for ice cube. Starbucks always serves their coffee way too hot.
Originally Posted By tonyanton It's amazing to me the "outrage" over this...the prior bakery's theming was roughly the same to me. I guess the current WDW guests don't recall the changes to Main Street (and the park in general) that were/are truly regrettable...the awful 2001 Emporium expansion into West Center Street, the Cinema becoming a gift shop, the complete removal of the Penny Arcade (not even the themeing left like in California), the turning of multiple fountains into planters, several shops in Adventureland and Frontierland becoming storage rooms, with the merch pushed outside into non-AC spaces, etc. And, as the linked article noted, there is a ton of seating a couple of steps away.
Originally Posted By tonyanton It will be interesting to see the Disneyland changes, only because Disneyland will still have a "bakery" per se...the relatively new "Jolly Holiday." At DL this change to "just" a coffee shop is not that big of an adjustment. Interestingly, the Magic Kingdom Market House location became the expanded (and well done) Crystal Arts several years back. If WDW really used there space better the seldom opened Tomorrowland Terrace (off the hub) can be more enclosed and offer a different bakery location...they could then change the "Main Street Bakery" to the "Main Street Coffee House," which might be a more accurate description of the current locale.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I agree with both of those posts. For having the "blessing of size" it really is amazing how poorly the space in MK is used. There are countless locations that have been closed to guests for a decade or more, while the walkways are overcrowded with ODVs and huge strollers. And when one thing opens, it always seems to come at the expense of an existing location, even though there's plenty of space for these things to coexist in the theme park. For a park that's seen record attendance in the last decade, it's amazing that they think that they can't afford to staff these additional locations. They seemed to do fine in the park's first couple decades, when there were far fewere guests. Perhaps if they had compelling merchandise (or food & drink) then guests would be more willing to part with their money. It's just strange to me how much of the MK (especially the west side) feels like it's closed to guests, and I don't even remember what it was like when everything was open way-back-when
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "It's amazing to me the "outrage" over this...the prior bakery's theming was roughly the same to me." Honestly I think it's just the typical knee-jerk reaction to almost anything Disney does in Florida these days. In addition, MiceAge's opinionated reporting has been setting the tone for the online Disney theme park fan base for at least a decade now. If the reviewer had glowing things to say about the new bakery most of the readers would have nodded along in agreement.
Originally Posted By tashajilek I don't get why anyone would care so much about the look of a coffee shop.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt You should have been around when DCA first opened. Whoo-boy...
Originally Posted By tashajilek Come to think of it Hans there hasn't been anything negative said about DCA for awhile now. I guess everyone now doesn't think it sucks.
