Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "And Hans I am seeing the Potter comparison more." Good, because I was starting to think maybe I was being naively enthusiastic about Cars Land.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf Anyone else notice they are starting to plant things on the CarsLand rockwork? <a href="http://www.disneygeek.com/updates/disneyland_image.php?update_dir=2011_07_02&page_id=69&num_image=3" target="_blank">http://www.disneygeek.com/upda..._image=3</a>
Originally Posted By Nobody ^^ Yes, I did. I'm glad to see they are planting early when and where they can.
Originally Posted By TP2000 It is a little odd that they would release such a basic, sketchy "fly through" of this new land. When I saw it I realized immediately that this was a very basic outline of the area, and it's probably a piece of animation from several years ago when they were nailing down the design of the place and its spaces. But then all of us here are pretty up to speed on what Cars Land will look like and what it will offer. I'm sure there are more casual Disney fans that looked at that and thought "Geez, that's no big deal. It looks barren." It's unusual to see Disney release so much unfinished information on stuff yet to open. You have to wonder who they believe the audience is for that kind of material.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "You have to wonder who they believe the audience is for that kind of material." Nerdy Disney geeks? Note that in just a week the clip already has over 33,000 views on Youtube.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo 'I'm sure there are more casual Disney fans that looked at that and thought "Geez, that's no big deal. It looks barren."' How many casual fans are looking at that?
Originally Posted By dshyates Ok, I think I can show where my concern about the Carsland rockwork comes from. Just scroll down and compare the rockwork in Carsland to what they are building for Ariel's at the MK. There is an obvious difference in quality and attention to detail between the two. One is amazing the other not so much. <a href="http://www.mousesteps.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=611&Itemid=65" target="_blank">http://www.mousesteps.com/inde...temid=65</a>
Originally Posted By Manfried Until you see the actual finished rockwork (which is not yet) how can you make that claim?
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf ^^Plus it's supposed to be a different kind of rock with a different kind-of texture.
Originally Posted By EighthDwarf <<"Geez, that's no big deal. It looks barren.">> I thought the same thing at first, but then quickly realized the greenery would obscure the view of the structures, which would defeat the purpose of the video.
Originally Posted By yamabuki The rockwork in Cars Land is designed by the same man who created Mt Prometheus in Disney Sea. The quality and scope of the project is beyond anything Disney has done recently (with sculptors and painters from around the world working on the rock). Here's a closer look at the rock detail that is hand-sculpted by the workers <a href="http://wdwnt.smugmug.com/Disneyland-Resort/Max-Guggenheim-11111/Disneyalndjan1120110911/1154324118_naKxL-X2.jpg" target="_blank">http://wdwnt.smugmug.com/Disne...L-X2.jpg</a> <a href="http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d20/nonob88/carsland11.jpg" target="_blank">http://i32.photobucket.com/alb...nd11.jpg</a> In fact, comparing Mermaid rock to the one in Cars Land, the Mermaid rockwall looks less detailed. In fact one of those pictures shows a flat painted wall. <a href="http://www.mousesteps.com/images/stories/Updates%202011/July%203%20Magic%20Kingdom/Magic%20Kingdom%20Update/IMG_9237.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.mousesteps.com/imag...9237.jpg</a> <a href="http://www.mousesteps.com/images/stories/Updates%202011/July%203%20Magic%20Kingdom/Magic%20Kingdom%20Update/IMG_9241.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.mousesteps.com/imag...9241.jpg</a>
Originally Posted By TP2000 The differences in rockwork are quite noticeable, as the two rockface projects are at very similar phases of their construction. You could defend the Mermaid rocks by saying that it's a different kind of look based on the Mermaid movie, and that the 23 year old hand drawn animation didn't have the level of detail and intricacy that the 5 year old Pixar computer animation has. The look of Eric's Castle and nearby rocks in the movie was fairly two-dimensional and rather basic, thus the theme park interpretation of it is the same. But, the Cars Land rockwork looks a hundred times more detailed and impressive and lifelike. I have looked at it up close from Pacific Wharf, and it's very, very impressive. The pictures of the other parts of the land look even more mindblowing. Mount Prometheus in DisneySea is similarly awe inspiring when you walk around it and look up at it at close distance. If the same guy is in charge of Cars Land, it's now making a lot of sense why the mountains there look so fantastic.
Originally Posted By TP2000 "One is amazing the other not so much." One is also 150 feet tall and seemingly a mile wide, and the other is 25 to 30 feet tall and about the size of your local supermarket. Totally different scope and scale on the Cars Land thing (in that it's MASSIVE), and the intricacy of the rockwork and surfacing makes it even more amazing. The Mermaid building will be very pretty, I'm sure. But it's just a much different type of facility on a much smaller scale. A shame they couldn't plus up the rockwork just a bit, even if there wasn't much detail shown in the 1989 movie footage of Eric's castle and surrounding geography.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Ok, I think I can show where my concern about the Carsland rockwork comes from. Just scroll down and compare the rockwork in Carsland to what they are building for Ariel's at the MK." Yep, I can see why you might assume that Cars Land's might not be up to the same level at as HP based on what you're seeing at Mermaid. In Mermaid's defense the rockwork looks appropriate for the film it is based on and the type of ride that it is. That said, it does appear that the Imagineers went above and beyond with the Cadillac Range.
Originally Posted By ChiMike >> Warner Bros. made them tear out sections of the rockwork repeatedly to get it just right and it is amazing. It makes the rockwork on Everest a total embarrassment<< Agreed
Originally Posted By ChiMike >> One of the biggest blunders Disney made with creating buzz for DCA back in 2000-2001 was that it failed to control the message.<< Great point, but I would hardly say 'biggest' Maybe 15th biggest blunder, between publically blaming the weather after it opened at 16th and Xgames at 14th. >> The manner in which the DCA expansion project has been handled from a PR standpoint has been pretty much flawless.<< I would agree
