Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Not the driving, that's top notch, but the way the show is presented.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Ok, where to start with this. I am a huge fan of Moteurs Action/Lights Motors Action, having seen it in rehearsal mode at WDSP, and then having enjoyed it at least 30 times since opening as well as once in DHS. I am one of the few people (if not the only one) who has seen this addition. We saw it in April at WDSP and covered it in my trip report. My kids thought it was ok. The audience seemed to like it. But I hated it as a pointless plug for the new movie and boring (it was also supposed to be exclusive to DLP for this year, but obviously that was misinformation in their press release). But the real reason I hated it? A toon car in a real stunt show. The whole point of the Herbie scenes were actually to show you how his stunts were filmed (the video was cool, then you saw the split in half car). Herbie used real stunts and real/modified cars. Cars and Cars2 does not, and is another piece of evidence of what is poisoning Disney. What is interesting is my 2 (who love Cars and are aged 6 and 8) were more disappointed by the loss of Herbie than the addition of Lightening McQueen.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>It's a couple of cars racing around during a motor stunt show. Exactly what is the quality issue?<<< They do not race, but rather they crawl...
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Hey lets help the poor DL Company out with the Cars promo crud everywhere synergy...I just saw a huge poster of CARS2 in the window at a William Sonoma Store. Does that help you ,Disney, with your online tracking? Every time I see anything about CARS2 I think how obvious Is there any Country they will not be visiting? I guess they really need to sell more collectible cars everywhere in the world. Please be stupid and buy more collections to make Disney/Pixar rich and you poor. Sorry to the little children that love cars. I know that is not nice. It is just a bit too much for me
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Well as always you don't have the option of attending the show or buying the merchandise.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Except it is everywhere in the drugstore,grocery,walking down the street across from my condo I have a toy store with Cars2 merchandising(Lego) in their window and then a block further is the William Sonoma Store with the huge poster and cake tins for children's party theming I assume. Maybe I will have a big party on June 25th to celebrate the Cars2 Premiere. You are all invited. BYOB(balloons)
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Here's 8 billion reasons why you see Cars merchandise <a href="http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/disney-cars-has-crossed-8-99438" target="_blank">http://www.hollywoodreporter.c...-8-99438</a>
Originally Posted By Bolna <<But the real reason I hated it? A toon car in a real stunt show. The whole point of the Herbie scenes were actually to show you how his stunts were filmed (the video was cool, then you saw the split in half car). Herbie used real stunts and real/modified cars.>> I have never seen the show, I find stunt shows to be boring and cars are even more boring, so it really is not something I am interested in at all. But your explanation makes a lot of sense to me why incorporating cars can be seen as actually lowering the quality of the show. I wonder whether it would have worked if Cars had been in the show from the beginning and not brought in at a later point - it also does not fit to the setting in Southern France.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper It sucks, but that's par for the course with LMA. Worst. Show. Ever. If hell had a theme park, it would be filled with shows like LMA.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo To be fair, the new Cars2 is spy themed and is set in the UK, Tokyo and Italy, so that part is not a huge stretch. But, it really does not fit due the animation part IMHO. Just like no way should Mickey and the Gang be in Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show. But it seems at least in Paris, they are more interested in Disney character synergy than theme.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Worst. Show. Ever. If hell had a theme park, it would be filled with shows like LMA.<<< I disagree. I would rather see LMA than do most things in the MK.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo and LMA is easily in my top 10 attractions for WDW, and one of my favs created by Disney in the last 10 years.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper It's a snore. Too much talking, not enough action. I really don't care how they do the stunts. Replace the long winded explanations with actual action, and maybe it could be a decent show.
Originally Posted By Bolna I think the reason for the emphasis on toons in Paris is that Europeans did not grow up with the same knowledge about Disneyland as Americans did. From what I have read, Disney's TV shows did a lot for introducing the concept of Disneyland to the American public. Here we might have known that there exists a place in America called Disneyland, but nobody really had a notion of what it might be. Pirates of the Caribbean wasn't a household name until Jack Sparrow came to life. Disney wasn't the company known for high quality entertainment which is appears to be in the US. It was a company providing funny cartoons and animation films for kids. On my first visit to Disneyland I expected it to be way more like Toontown. Or even more: I expected it to be "Entenhausen" (I think it's Duckburg in English), the place where Mickey and Donald and their respective relatives from the comic books, I read as a child, would be. I found out that the Matterhorn was way more interesting for me than meeting Mickey Mouse, so I wasn't too disappointed. But when DLP opened I read a lot of commentary here in Germany just about the lack of this environment that I had expected as well. I knew better by then and thought those people were rather stupid. But I think maybe this feeling is still lingering amongst the European audience and that's why they love the characters in Buffalo Bill's Wild West Show?
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>It's a snore. Too much talking, not enough action. I really don't care how they do the stunts. Replace the long winded explanations with actual action, and maybe it could be a decent show.<<< You cannot do that safely. Those stunts take time to set up to perform safely, that is why the talking and video is there. Listen next time, you might actually learn something.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Bolna, I agree, but it does not mean it has to be toons 24/7. afterall, before DL, Disney was known for their toons too. Very few were in the parks when they opened. And Epcot Centre had none. quite honestly, if all the toons disappeared from all the Disney parks, I would be quite happy. I am a DL fan, not really a toon one. But I know that will not happen (and shouldn't as it makes others happy). I am grumpy that the Dapper Dans no longer perform in DLP, and most DLP fans don't even know who they were.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<You cannot do that safely. Those stunts take time to set up to perform safely, that is why the talking and video is there. Listen next time, you might actually learn something.>> I have. I've seen it twice, and never have I learned something I didn't already know. It's a crappy show IMO, and a huge waste of space.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 It's not about Herbie, it's about the severe lack of quality in this part of the show. -- and the under 10 crowd in the 5000 or so people in the show the don't deserve a 3 minute segment geared towards them while the other racers re set ? c'mon- this is a car stunt show, not Olivier doing Shakespeare here
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I enjoy the show. Personally I enjoyed Herbie more than Lightening, but it's no big deal. I can see how most kids today would prefer Lightening. Actually, LMA was one of the attractions Ann and I enjoyed most last trip (after Midway Mania). Oh my God, what did I just say? Another Toon...
Originally Posted By vbdad55 OMG- another toon from a company that made much of it's history producing them..the shock I'm with you RT-- I will see this show again in a few weeks, and I may very well like Herbie better, we'll see...but the entire attraction didn't suddenly become a pile of crapola bewcause of this change. And likely in a few years it will be swapped out for something else to tie into whatever else they have going... See the next thread- tram tires move from goodyear to goodrich --the morons- they have ruined the trams
