Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Wise decision Hokie, although I'm going to go there and say it will be a major loss if the swinging cars have been axed.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Oh yes. If that were to happen it would make the ride a very middling and mediocre effort.
Originally Posted By leobloom I'd be curious to know if the swinging part of the ride was mentioned alongside the presentation of the video.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Honestly, releasing something like that video -- it really shouldn't be released publicly. It just looks cheesy and weird.
Originally Posted By 999HAUNTS Kinda like my prom photo Sure hope it swings..that was the D23 convention selling point, after all.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I really don't know how much of a difference the swinging will make. It looks like the turns are banked pretty well, which does the same thing as having the cars swing. Yes, it would also reduce the stress on the vehicles to have the load on the car always roughly at the same angle, but it seems like a bit of overkill when the gimmick is that it swings. I also wonder if they're having trouble finding a way to stabilize the cars during loading and unloading, which might lead to questioning the gimmick. Then again, it could have all been discussed in the presentation. Unfortunately, they did a good job of adding in catchy music and editing the video professionally, even though the content seems very in-progress. This makes it easier for it to circulate online and give folks a really bad first impression (correctly or otherwise) of the upcoming attraction.
Originally Posted By brotherdave The shadows of the dwarfs marching while going up the lift hill might be a nice effect. Since they didn't show the entire ride, I'll hold any judgement until it opens. My guess is that it will be a fun "C" ticket ride, but not much more. It's still better having this than Aurora's Coloring Cottage presented by Crayola!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I really don't know how much of a difference the swinging will make." Imagine riding Big Thunder in ore cars that swung from side to side and it's obvious that the swinging would make a dramatic difference in the ride. All you have to do is compare the D23 video to the new one to see the difference.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Maybe they'll provide options... A line for Fast Pass, the stand by line, and then a line for 'swingers'
Originally Posted By HauntedMansionFan It's a downright shame the witch isn't making an appearance in the new attraction.
Originally Posted By Witches of Morva ORWEN: Thank you for your interest in witches, HauntedMansionFan, duckling. For obvious reasons, I have an interest in witches, too. But don't give up hoping. Us cauldron girls were talking to some Imagineers way back whenever and they hinted that the evil queen may make a cameo appearance in the ride after all. She may show up as the old hag or could show up as the queen. We don't know for sure.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Wise decision Hokie, although I'm going to go there and say it will be a major loss if the swinging cars have been axed.>> The cars are still due to rock from side to side - it is a gentle effect.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Well, if I was trying to generate excitement for something then I'm not sure releasing this video is the approach I would take.>> It has been made and released to justify the large payroll costs of WDW Media Relations. These nonsense sizzle reels used to be few and far between until a few years ago and now they seem to be drip-fed through the blog and Youtube on a regular basis. I hate seeing this pre-viz stuff out there - it isn't appropriate for public consumption - there is absolutely no point trying to build fake buzz over a year out from opening. The problem is that WDW has nothing to trumpet for 2013 at the moment.
Originally Posted By leemac <<I would hope there are at least several more indoor scenes, and that the animatronics have better movement than the "head nod, arm swing" of those dwarf mannequins in this video. >> This attraction has been an Orphan Annie for years. Eric Jacobson proposed it nearly a decade ago for his far superior FLE and it had multiple show scenes and was a longer expansion. When TOS decided to kill Jay's beloved M&Gs he needed something quick and this was the first thing that could fit that space and vaguely fit the mission statement.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Is this an off-the-shelf coaster?>> Yes and no. The layout is slightly tweaked from other mine train coasters out there but all of the tech has come from a recognizable coaster manufacturer. Much like how Expedition Everest and Grizzly at HKDL are standardized Vekoma coasters with client-specific tweaks.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "The problem is that WDW has nothing to trumpet for 2013 at the moment." It's 3 weeks before 2013 and the FLE and the revamped Test Track officially opened a few days ago. Wouldn't they be the things to trumpet for 2013? It's not like they have much time left to boast about them as 2012 changes/additions.
