Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan I am offended. I'll have you know that I have never once played hackey sack.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance I can't participate in these discussions with Josh anymore. It's too draining and nothing will ever come of it. How many times can we ask him why it hurts anyone else if everyone has equal rights? If he wants to sit in his self righteous chair at his hateful computer monitor and type these things from his discriminatory keyboard, so be it. I'm just glad that people who think like Josh are becoming less and less prevalent.
Originally Posted By mele Josh posted this thread because feeling our anger makes him feel good. He likes feeling persecuted. It's masturbation for his soul.
Originally Posted By gadzuux >> If he wants to sit in his self righteous chair at his hateful computer monitor and type these things from his discriminatory keyboard, so be it. << It's okay if he's wearing his magic underwear. That way the angels can find him. >> We support civil right for gay couples. Not marriage rights. << We support these rights over here, but not those rights over there. I'm all for equality, except for the parts I'm against. And it's not a civil rights issue ... because I say so. Or rather, my church says so, and they're never wrong - even when they are. Now there's a coherent policy for you.
Originally Posted By DAR >> If he wants to sit in his self righteous chair at his hateful computer monitor and type these things from his discriminatory keyboard, so be it. << Wow all my computer monitor can do is display the full amount of pixels.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "Wouldn't this be better if it was attached to the other thread. I mean do we really have to do this dance again." Seriously! This horse is beyond dead... "The direction of the other thread was offensive to me, so I wanted to post this relevant information in a new one." And, based on all previous threads, what makes you think this will go any differently? It's obvious you have a POV, but it really could have gone in the other thread...offended or not...
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 ""You're pissing people off who up until Prop 8 felt either good to ambivalent about the LDS church." Exactly! Consider me one of those people." Add me to this list as well. You are not doing your church any service here, you're hurting, if anything.
Originally Posted By DAR In a way I do empathize with Josh. I know what it's like to be the lone wolf and have the townfolk turn against you. The only difference is I'm usually right.
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Mormon Funeral Potatoes Ingredients *1 26 oz Bag Frozen Hashbrowns *1 Can Campbell's Healthy Request Cream of Chicken Soup *16 oz Light Sour Cream *1/4 - 1/2 C. Chopped Onion (some recipes call for green onions as well) Salt & Pepper 2 C. Low-Fat Cheddar Cheese 2 C. Corn Flakes Directions Preheat oven to 350 degrees. Mix soup and sour cream together in a bowl. In a casserole dish or 12" x 9" cake pan, mix hashbrowns, 1 1/2 C. cheese, onions/green onions, salt and pepper as desired, and sour cream/soup mix together. Spread the mixture evenly in the pan. Crush corn flakes--I like to place the corn flakes in a sandwich baggie and crush them with a rolling pin. Sprinkle crushed corn flakes on top of hashbrown mix. Sprinkle remaining 1/2 C. cheese over corn flakes. Cover with aluminum foil and bake at 350 for 45 minutes. Number of Servings: 12
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder Mormon Surprise Cocktail Recipe Ingredients : - 1 part vodka - 2 1/2 parts white grape juice - 2 1/2 parts white ginger ale (canada dry) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Use a "In glass" for Mormon Surprise drink recipe Add the vodka and grape juice to a collins glass and fill with ginger ale. Serve in "Collins Glass" Garnish: No Ingredients: vodka. grape juice. ginger ale (Canada Dry).
Originally Posted By disneydad109 Just cause this is a new thread does Josh think that anyone is going to say :Gosh, now I see what you mean. I think some very diffrent now. Thanks for opening my eyes,Josh !
Originally Posted By skinnerbox <<Marriage is the big disagreement here. We support equal rights for gay couples. We don't support gay marriage. Go ahead and live together, have hospital rights, etc. Hardly the same as denying oxygen.>> Actually, it is, when you're financially strapped so tight that life itself becomes difficult to sustain without extreme poverty and undue hardships. Most of the "rights" you claim to want for gay couples and families are only available through marriage recognized by the Federal government. States are now free to grant some of these rights such as hospital visitation, etc, even if they don't have gay marriage like Massachusetts. But those rights should be granted at the Federal level, so all gay couples and families have these protections in place. Here's a partial list of the 1400 rights that gay couples are denied in our country that heterosexual married couples enjoy. And please note that the vast majority of these 25 rights have caused significant financial burdens on gay couples and families that would not occur if federally recognized marriage were available to them: <a href="http://lesbianlife.about.com/od/wedding/f/MarriageBenefit.htm" target="_blank">http://lesbianlife.about.com/o...efit.htm</a> 1. Joint parental rights of children 2. Joint adoption 3. Status as "next-of-kin" for hospital visits and medical decisions 4. Right to make a decision about the disposal of loved ones remains 5. Immigration and residency for partners from other countries 6. Crime victims recovery benefits 7. Domestic violence protection orders 8. Judicial protections and immunity 9. Automatic inheritance in the absence of a will 10. Public safety officers death benefits 11. Spousal veterans benefits 12. Social Security 13. Medicare 14. Joint filing of tax returns 15. Wrongful death benefits for surviving partner and children 16. Bereavement or sick leave to care for partner or children 17. Child support 18. Joint Insurance Plans 19. Tax credits including: Child tax credit, Hope and lifetime learning credits 20. Deferred Compensation for pension and IRAs 21. Estate and gift tax benefits 22. Welfare and public assistance 23. Joint housing for elderly 24. Credit protection 25. Medical care for survivors and dependents of certain veterans In the real world, legislative action to give these rights to "civil union" gay partners would take years if not decades to enact. Gay couples and families cannot afford to wait any longer and suffer without these protections. These rights need to be granted yesterday. And the fastest way to make that happen is to eliminate DOMA and make marriage legal for all couples, gay and straight alike.
