Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/21/politics/akin-controversy/index.html?hpt=hp_t1" target="_blank">http://www.cnn.com/2012/08/21/...pt=hp_t1</a> Well, he won't withdraw, despite very single GOP person that matters in this debacle telling him he should. And to that I say GOOD! This turd of a human being represents a sizable portion of the GOP that needs to be rooted out and exposed for what they really are, which is a detriment to this country. I hope he stays in and loses by a landslide to McCaskill, preserving a Democratic seat in the Senate. Because right now, there are no moderate GOP members who represent what I believe, so we might as well have more Democrats.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 I find it very interesting just how quickly his fellow Republicans pounced on him. I know they only did it because they feel vulnerable in the Senate. They need that seat, and fear he could lose it. So, they all pounced on him. I do hope McCaskill wins the race because of this though. The fact that Romney actually spoke out against someone when he has typically avoided taking any sides with these kinds of things in the past, really means they are nervous.
Originally Posted By ecdc What's awesome is they all act outraged...then introduce a party plank that says let's have a Constitutional amendment that bans abortion, even in cases of rape. Andrew Sullivan really nailed it. The GOP isn't so much pro-life as they are terrified of death, which is really weird for such a religious bunch.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< I find it very interesting just how quickly his fellow Republicans pounced on him. I know they only did it because they feel vulnerable in the Senate. >>> You're darned right about that. While expressing outrage about the "legitimate" rape comment, the GOP leadership is busy finalizing this year's party platform, to be unveiled next week at the party national convention in Tampa. Included in that platform is support for a Constitutional amendment that bans abortion in all cases, including rape. <a href="http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2012/08/21/gop-platform-committee-approves-tough-anti-abortion-stance/" target="_blank">http://politicalticker.blogs.c...-stance/</a>
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Absolutely. Also - remember the uproar about Bob McDonnell, Gov. of VA, and his plan to force all women who want an abortion to have a transvaginal ultrasound... an unnecessary procedure, against her will, probably against her doctor's will, but forced on her by the government... and force her to pay for it to boot? There was such an uproar that McDonnell became known as "Governor Ultrasound," and instantly fell off the VP short list. And yet - did you know the guy Romney DID peek for VP sponsored a bill (which didn't pass) that would require ALL women, in EVERY state, to have an ultrasound if she wants an abortion? That's right. Ryan is essentially "Governor Ultrasound" times 50 - or at least he wanted to be. And then they have the gall to call themselves "small government conservatives." Gimme a break. Look for that little fact to get played up in the coming weeks, if the Democrats are smart.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Missouri Senator McCaskill was an ABSOLUTE GENIUS during the Primary... she ran ads saying that "Todd Akin was too conservative for Missouri", knowing that would make him the likely Republican primary winner. Of course anyone with a lick of sense knew that Akin was EXACTLY whom McCaskill wanted to face... he polled closer to her than any of the other primary candidates, who held comfortable leads over her. But of course Missouri Republican voters don't have a lick of sense, so what can you say? I think she KNEW Akin would self-destruct, although he did it a whole lot faster than even she would have expected. Now he is major damaged goods and will likely keep the Senate in Democrat hands. Of course now all the whining Missouri Republicans are accusing McCaskill of trying to influence the Republican Primary. [rolleyes]
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Of course now all the whining Missouri Republicans are accusing McCaskill of trying to influence the Republican Primary.<< Democrats contributed 1.5 million to Askin's primary campaign, so they did influence the primary... Not that there is anything wrong with it as both sides do it, but they do have a valid complaint...
Originally Posted By TomSawyer They can't complain if they have open primaries and want the taxpayers to pick up the costs of the election.
Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan Ryan and Akin worked together on a bill which included the term "forcible rape" -- which Ryan is now trying to weasel out of. <a href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/22/ryan-backs-away-from-his-forcible-rape-bill-no-splitting-hairs/" target="_blank">http://www.rawstory.com/rs/201...g-hairs/</a>
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 Ryan and Akin worked together on a bill which included the term "forcible rape" -- which Ryan is now trying to weasel out of.<< It's not called weaseling out of, it's called changing your mind. He is learning from the best there is at that...Romney ;o)
Originally Posted By Dabob2 By the way, not everyone is saying Akin was wrong: <a href="http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/20/bryan-fischer-todd-akin-right-about-real-genuine-rape/" target="_blank">http://www.rawstory.com/rs/201...ne-rape/</a> "Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association on Monday insisted that Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) was right to claim women could not become pregnant from “legitimate rape.” “What Todd Akin is talking about is when you’ve got a real, genuine rape. A case of forcible rape, a case of assault, where a woman has been violated against her will through the use of physical force where it is physically traumatic for her,” Fischer said on his radio program. “Under those circumstances, the woman’s body — because of the trauma that has been inflicted on her — it may interfere with the normal function processes of her body that lead to conception and pregnancy.” If this guy sounds familiar, he's head of one of the groups that Chik-Fil-A took heat for donating scads of money to.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 Kathleen Parker, staunch Republican columnist, nonetheless had a scathing column today about Akin. My favorite passage: "To think we've overlooked this fail-safe method of birth control. More legitimate rape; fewer unwanted children. It has a certain Talibanesque ring to it." There's another side to this view of "raped women can't get pregnant" that is less commented on too. Obviously it would mean that we don't need to make an exception for criminalizing abortion, since pregnant rape victims don't actually exist. But think about the flip side: it would mean that any pregnant woman who's saying she was raped must be lying. It can't have been a "legitimate" rape; just one more manipulative harpy claiming a rape that she actually consented to. The misogyny is really amazing when you think about it. But, of course, there's no actual "war on women." None. Uh uh. How dare you suggest such a thing?
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 And they're basing that wrong info from a report done by a doctor with a pro-life agenda. It's been disproven by countless other doctors.
Originally Posted By TomSawyer Conservatives cry out about moral relativism while rejecting objective, provable reality.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "Andrew Sullivan really nailed it. The GOP isn't so much pro-life as they are terrified of death, which is really weird for such a religious bunch." I'm too angry to comment on this legitimate rape issue, but I will throw out there that I don't believe the GOP is a religious bunch whatsoever. They make everything about religion and family values because if they didn't how on earth would they appeal to 99% of their poor, uneducated, religious supporters? Which, less face it, has to make up a huge portion of their voters.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 Constance, I think that's true. Although some might really be convinced they are doing it for religious reasons, I don't think many actually care about those issues that they base their platforms on. Watching senator Akin scramble to keep his campaign running still, he's now reaching out to Christian-Evangelicals, and anti-abortion groups to give donations to help him win the seat. It reminds me of Scar in the Lion King, who when confronted, throws the hyenas under the bus, but then tries to win their sympathy again in the end...at least in the Lion King, the hyenas saw through his crap...let's see if the Tennessee voters see through Akin's pleas for help from the base that's left.
Originally Posted By ecdc In addition to legitimate rape, women's bodies will also deploy microscopic sharks with laser beams attached to their heads to kill sperm in the case of real rape, serious rape, authentic rape, and orthodox rape. However, these uppity broads best not be thinking that other kinds of rape are covered. If you engage in fake rape, fun rape, pseudo-rape, spurious rape, or boisterous rape, you will get pregnant and we will expect you to carry that child to term.* *We may make exception if you are carrying a Muslim baby or a gay baby.
