Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>You mean like Captain EO?<<< Which is still playing to good sized crowds even though it's "old" and "dated". LOL
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Why do people always insist that attractions need to be torn down because THEY don't like it. There is plenty of room in WDW to add things, there is absolutely no need to get rid of others to do it. No one is forced at gunpoint to see any attraction that I am aware of. Lobby to get new stuff, just keep your mitts off the stuff you don't like...others do like it! Disney does that too often as it is. And what do we get in place of it...nothing, absolutely nothing.<<< THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally Posted By Goofyernmost >>>You mean like Captain EO?<<< Which is still playing to good sized crowds even though it's "old" and "dated". LOL<<<<<< That's only because of the natural rejuvenation of popularity that happens after a major star completely loses his mind, his nose falls off and he dies. It sucked originally, and it still does, but blind worship is propelling it on. Even though HISTA was pure corn, it was well done and made use of the theater completely. But then the tough generations that we have raised started to get the "vapors" because make believe lab rats were brushing against their legs.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I think the time for that has passed... It's pulling it's own, even without fanatics. Most guests aren't return visitors, as you know.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> But then the tough generations that we have raised started to get the "vapors" because make believe lab rats were brushing against their legs. << Funny.
Originally Posted By leobloom I still haven't seen Captain EO since it started it's death-tribute run. My wife's never seen it and I don't really think she's missing anything. We're going to the parks on Friday to see the new Star Tours, and we'll probably park hop afterwards. But is Captain EO calling us to Epcot? Nope. If we really wanted to see it, we could youtube it. (Or watch the VHS copy I recorded off MTV about 20 years ago.)
Originally Posted By RoadTrip We saw Captain EO our last visit to WDW and it was OK... nothing great. We probably wouldn't have bothered except we passed by when it was 3 minutes to showtime and they still had seating available. The only interest it really held was seeing Michael Jackson back when he was truly great and didn't look like a freak.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I still haven't seen Captain EO since it started it's death-tribute run. My wife's never seen it and I don't really think she's missing anything. We're going to the parks on Friday to see the new Star Tours, and we'll probably park hop afterwards. But is Captain EO calling us to Epcot? Nope. If we really wanted to see it, we could youtube it. (Or watch the VHS copy I recorded off MTV about 20 years ago.)<<<< It's MUCH better in person. Effects, 3D, sound. Don't go off a video, that's just foolish.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Captain EO is nice to see at least once, so you can make fun of how terrible it is. Old stuff that goes away should stay like that. *Glares at Main Street Electrical Prehistoric*
Originally Posted By DlandDug >>Everyone can agree that Tiki Room is old hat. It's time for Disney to innovate again.<< I don't know that these are necessarily mutually exclusive. (And I don't agree that the Tiki Room is "old hat."))
Originally Posted By leobloom >> It's MUCH better in person. Effects, 3D, sound. Don't go off a video, that's just foolish. << I saw it in 3D at DL fifteen years ago. I don't really need to see it in 3D again. Once was enough. Or more than enough.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip The last few post indicate Disney's dilemma when it comes to replacing attractions. What some people see as tired and stale others see as classics.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I guess if you leave anything sitting around long enough at a Disney park someone will consider it a classic whether the designation is justified or not.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip <<I guess if you leave anything sitting around long enough at a Disney park someone will consider it a classic whether the designation is justified or not.>> OK... I'll bite. Please tell me why Carousel of Progress and the Tiki Room should not be considered Classics? The Tiki Room was Disney's first extensive use of animatronics. It opened a year before Carousel of Progress and 3 years before Pirates of the Caribbean. Carousel of Progress was an attraction Walt was very involved with and was a HUGE hit at the 64-65 NY World's Fair. It was Disney's first use of animatronics in a realistic setting. Both were groundbreaking attractions in an area that even today differentiates Disney from its competition... use of animatronics. I am totally mystified why significant attractions like the Tiki's and Carousel of Progress can be considered stale, while The Toad, a bunch of plywood flats painted with day-glo paint is considered a Disney Classic. Something here is VERY WRONG.
Originally Posted By brotherdave It just proves that you can't please everyone. I'm personally grateful that the original Tiki Room is coming back. I also love the Country Bears (though they could change it up by adding the Vacation and Christmas shows now and again) and Carousel of Progress. "Old" does not necessarily equate to "bad". And what may be old to frequent visitors is something totally new and fresh to new or infrequent guests. I would imagine that a small child, whether its 1961 or 2011, will still be enthralled by singing birds, bears, dolls, etc. These attractions are timeless. If you don't like it, then move on. And yes, these attractions are CLASSIC!
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Briefly going back to Captain EO sure the story is hokey but the music is what sets that one apart.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>Golly, MK would be so much better with alcohol.<<< One of the things I adore at DLP is having an apperetif, then a bottle or 2 of wine with my lunch, then going for a chilled out cruise on the Mark Twain/Molly Brown or a trip through Phantom Manor...heaven. I think I could enjoy the MK more with alcohol too. Though not required at Disneyland.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>I really like having a drink or two (or three), but I can't imagine drinking at the MK. It is just totally the wrong atmosphere for it.<< RT, you and Ann come to DLP and I will totally change your mind. A run based cocktail in the Blue Lagoon, fine wines at the Silver Spur, Walt's or Auberge De Cindirillon, it is fantastic!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>The Tiki's, Country Bears, Hall of Presidents, Carousel of Progress and the People Mover all serve this role very admirably. The People Mover isn't air conditioned, but zips around fast enough that you always have a nice breeze. After experiencing one of those attractions I come out cool, calm and collected and am ready to face the heat and the crowds once again. <<< see, this is one way the MK has DL beat. The DL of my youth had those and they are the attractions I specifically seek out in the MK. To me, it would not be worth going to the MK without HoP, CoP, People Mover and now the Tiki Room. All the other signature attractions (except maybe Haunted Mansion) are better in California or Paris. so I really enjoy the AA attractions and People Mover (PM has so many wonderful memories with my family as a kid, and my kids love it too). we all love the Tiki Room. I hated the Under New Management show. This is good. The other cool alternative could have been a Haunted Swing/Mad House attraction themed to the Tiki Gods getting angred, but they have very low capacity.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>I am totally mystified why significant attractions like the Tiki's and Carousel of Progress can be considered stale, while The Toad, a bunch of plywood flats painted with day-glo paint is considered a Disney Classic. Something here is VERY WRONG.<<< I totally agree. AA's to me = Disney parks. And I am really saddened by their demise. I particularly love them when they are not toons. I can ride roller coasters anywhere, I do think in the main the mountains are very much overrated (except maybe Space Mountain in Paris or Splash Mountain - which I know, has toons, but it is very well done). But I cannot do anything like the Tiki Room, CBJ, Hop, CoP anywehere else, and although others have copied HM and PotC, no where has bettered them (ok, maybe Geisterrikshaw in Phantasialand, but that may just be the uniqutity of the chinese demons). I think the Tiki Room is fab, and it is a place kids love that adults can and do enjoy too.
