Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<all the nighttime "spectaculars" are pretty unspectacular>> Fantasmic could also use some major work, and for God's sake, can be finally retire the Main Street Electrical Parade? They've been trotting that thing out since the 1970s - and it LOOKS it!! Can we please get a new nighttime parade using technology from at least the 21st Century?
Originally Posted By sjhym333 While I may not always appreciate the fervor of peoples opinions of TDL, is it really necessary to continue to take this discussion to the level that it has sunk too? Really!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Are they trolls? They seem sincere in their mania." Troll in the sense that they annoy by repeatedly and purposely interjecting their opinion about TDS into every discussion even when it is unnecessary and unwarranted.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "Troll in the sense that they annoy by repeatedly and purposely interjecting their opinion about TDS into every discussion even when it is unnecessary and unwarranted." Well, I can't argue they aren't guilty of that. Has TDLFan ever made a post that didn't mention or allude to TDL in some way? Brad has. But I think those always include some reference to Universal Orlando.
Originally Posted By Mr X ***"Internet trolls remind me of cockroaches." Are they trolls? They seem sincere in their mania*** Good lord, how dare some Disney fans on a Disney message board rave about a Disney park they consider to be the best of the lot. Manic trolls! Be gone! We don't want to hear about the best of all the Disney parks! Oh, and pointing out GLARING faults that should've been fixed decades ago in Florida isn't a troll thing either, it's called good taste. Jealous much!?
Originally Posted By Mr X ***Troll in the sense that they annoy by repeatedly and purposely interjecting their opinion about TDS into every discussion even when it is unnecessary and unwarranted*** Again - DISNEY message board, pointing out the merits of a DISNEY park...how is that in the least bit inappropriate? It's not, is the thing. Truth is, you just don't want to hear it. Fortunately, you're not in charge of deciding what people should and should not say about Disney parks on a Disney message board.
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn All teasing aside, DisneySea does offer good inspiration. Also remember, the art of pretending is inherent to the enjoyment of WDW
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance "Again - DISNEY message board, pointing out the merits of a DISNEY park...how is that in the least bit inappropriate?" Oh sure, that's all he does, right?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Late to the party, but I have to disagree that DHS is the park in need of the most work. From a financial standpoint, that's probably true, but from a park operations standpoint I'm in the EPCOT camp. EPCOT was built to house more people than the Magic Kingdom, yet gets nearly half its attendance each year. Its high capacity attractions are ghost towns, and the only two rides anyone wants to do in the park both consistently have overinflated wait times because of it. On top of having a dead and deserted Future World, World Showcase continues to be nothing more than a bar/restaurant with a 90 dollar cover charge.
Originally Posted By fkurucz >>The days of being able to make a full-time living out of prostitution are long gone, reckons Vivienne, at least in larger towns and cities. “It’s stupidly competitive right now,” she laments.<< Don't fear La Cucaracha!
Originally Posted By fkurucz What really struck me when I visited WDW was just how little there is to do in the non MK parks. And MK felt like a stripped down Disneyland.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "EPCOT was built to house more people than the Magic Kingdom, yet gets nearly half its attendance each year." Good point.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip It is hard to understand how Disney could take an EXCELLENT park like Epcot/Future World and trash it every time they touch it. The Graveyard... what were they thinking? Never build something that involves a long-term commitment to guests unless you are SURE you have it right. Hopefully that commitment will expire soon. Spaceship Earth... refurbed, made worse. Living Seas... refurbed, made worse. The Land... mostly untouched. Good refurb to the counter service dining, nice addition with Soarin'. But doesn't the most popular attraction at Epcot deserve it's OWN movie rather than a lift from DCA? Imagination... refurbed, made worse... destroyed, actually. Odyssey... closed. World of Motion... closed, replaced with Test Track which has been popular. Test Track... refurbed, made worse. Horizons... closed, replaced with Mission Space. A good, unique attraction that has suffered hugely from initial bad press. Mission Space... refurbed (Green Side), emasculated. Wonders of Life... closed. Universe of Energy... refurbed, still out of date and boring after the first time. Communicore/Innoventions... two massive buildings that have changed almost constantly but still don't have any idea what they want to be when they grow up. How can Disney consistently make something worse that originally was almost perfect?
Originally Posted By RoadTrip Because it is the only park open late at the time of the year I usually go and after a couple of glasses of wine in France, Illuminations doesn't seem all that bad.
Originally Posted By mrkthompsn I have a plan to retheme each and every Future World pavillion into meaningful, connected, entertaining, and innovative ways - ways that will remain relevant for 20 years.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "It is hard to understand how Disney could take an EXCELLENT park like Epcot/Future World and trash it every time they touch it." That's easy: they've completely ignored and/or forgot what EPCOT (Center) was supposed to be. I knew things were headed down the wrong path when some genius decided to remove 'Center' from the park's name.
