Let's do the time warp: Tea parties and Pirates

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    Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF

    Trippy -

    Next time the Riverview shows Rocky Horror, I'll take you to see it. You have to experience it at least once, and watching it at home just won't do.
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_Pongo

    BDSF! I couldn't agree more!

    Rocky Horror is probably in my mind, THE cult classic of all time. They used to show it every Friday and Saturday night around here at midnight. I was in middle school or a bit younger I think when it first hit, and it continued and still continues today.

    Does anyone remember the audience knowing every word, song, etc and the interactions? The first time I went, it was a great crowd and I was blown away. Don't watch it at home alone, or it will suck.


    :)
     
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    Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF

    And which character did you dress up as, Mr. Pongo?
     
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    Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt

    <<Why do you say they are crazy?>>

    <-Does the Time Warp dance in the aisles of the midnight showing of Rocky Horror!

    I guess it takes one to know one!
     
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    Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt

    <<Does anyone remember the audience knowing every word, song, etc and the interactions?>>

    That would be me!! I watch it at home & yell "SLUT" at the TV!!
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_Pongo

    <<<And which character did you dress up as, Mr. Pongo?>>>

    Uh... looks around...
    I didn't dress up.


    OH THE SHAME!!!


    <-- runs away in shame
     
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    Originally Posted By RoadTrip

    <<Trippy -

    Next time the Riverview shows Rocky Horror, I'll take you to see it. You have to experience it at least once, and watching it at home just won't do.>>

    I'm going to hold you to that you know!! We won't be in Minnesota much longer, but for Rocky Horror with my buddy Blue Devil I'll drive back for the weekend!
     
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    Originally Posted By DVC_Pongo

    What about you BDSF ?
     
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    Originally Posted By BlueDevilSF

    ^^^
    Oh, if I was going to dress up as any of them, it would probably be Riff Raff. He was always my favorite character, but I would probably be better as Brad.

    You'd make a great Eddie. But you'd need a hairpiece. :)
     
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    Originally Posted By mawnck

    >>Does anyone remember the audience knowing every word, song, etc and the interactions? The first time I went, it was a great crowd and I was blown away. Don't watch it at home alone, or it will suck. <<

    A true story:

    I went to college at a campus that really was in the middle of nowhere. So far into nowhere that the people who thought they were in the middle of nowhere, uh, weren't. It was over an hour's drive to the nearest city - and 3 hours to the nearest city the average person has ever heard of. We might as well have been on the moon.

    So the student council had to import entertainment themselves. They did a great job. We got at least one BIG concert a year, and it was always fun to watch the bewildered MTV VJs try to pronounce the name of the town.

    Anyway, one year they decided to arrange a screening of the Rocky Horror Picture Show. They had everyone bring blankets and towels and sit on the playing floor of the basketball stadium, while the movie was projected on a huge screen via 16mm film. 'Twas my first RHPS, and although I had a problem conceptually with yelling and throwing things at a movie, some attractive young ladies insisted I accompany them, so I grabbed a newspaper and a squirt gun and set out for the shindig.

    That was the day that I discovered that the RHPS functions a whole lot better when the audience is all on the same page.

    Since the attendees at this screening were used to the festivities at dozens of different theaters all over the southeast, the result was bedlam. People were yelling out different things at different times, throwing the props at each other, cussing out each other, sliding around the floor on their blankets. Woe be unto the person who wanted to see the movie, or, for that matter, wanted to experience a "normal" Rocky Horror audience.

    But that wasn't the best part.

    The projector was running fast.

    VERY fast. Like, chipmunk fast.

    Have you ever seen a gymnasium full of people try to do the Time Warp at 45 RPM? When they got to the "pelvic thrust" I thought they were going to seriously hurt themselves.

    I decided no screening of RHPS could ever live up to that one, so I never again went to one. The movie's too show-tuney for my taste anyway. Sure wish I knew whatever happened to the attractive young ladies, though.
     
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    Originally Posted By piperlynne

    Here is what I don't "get" about the "tea parties".

    The Boston Tea Party was in essence to protest "taxation without representation" (i.e. being taxed only by their own elected representatives).
    The thing is. . the taxes put in place that these folks are protesting are being put there by their own elected representatives (unless they don't vote - but don't get me started on people who complain and don't vote). So, for me at least, the symbolism doesn't work.

    I'm not saying that they shouldn't have protested something they don't like. Kinda like war protestors - they protest involvement wars even though they are sanctioned by our elected representatives.

    I've said before that I think its good that this group of people are out expressing their opinions and dislike of a policy. But if any one of them is calling for armed revolution against representatives that they voted in (or at least voted in the election that voted them in) that's just silly (and from what it sounds like. .this was only a few wacky folks).

    not sure this post even has a point. I just don't think the "tea party" thing was the best symbol to use in this case.

    Now I'm a commentator on symbolism in protests. Look at what WE has DONE to me LOLOL
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <The thing is. . the taxes put in place that these folks are protesting are being put there by their own elected representatives>

    From what I've read, most of the people protesting at these events weren't concerned about existing taxes, but about future taxes.

    They don't want the higher taxes that will have to be imposed to pay off the massive spending increase that's being considered now. And since the bill will be passed down to our children and grandchildren, who can't vote, they are being taxed without representation.
     
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    Originally Posted By piperlynne

    >>They don't want the higher taxes that will have to be imposed to pay off the massive spending increase that's being considered now. And since the bill will be passed down to our children and grandchildren, who can't vote, they are being taxed without representation.<<

    Um, so we shouldn't let congress pass any laws because they will be passed down to our children and grandchildren who in essense of your argument would be subject to those laws without being represented by those making them?
    Let not tax anyone for anything then because if citizens aren't of voting age, they might be subject to a tax they didn't vote in. And with no taxes, no money to pay for anything, including representatives, senators etc, so no government. Woo hoo Anarchy. Sounds like a plan!

    Doug, I get what you're trying to say, and I get that people are protesting taxes they don't want or don't want to happen (and I think that's great that they're making their voices heard), but (and this isn't meant to be a personal attack, just a question) the taxing children/grandchildren without representation argument seems a little silly to me (opinion). I mean, I guess we could give them a vote, have 3 year olds at the voting booths, but c'mon, really? Isn't it a reasonable expectation that a child is represented by its parent until it is of legal age and that parent is represented by their elected representative? And when the child is of legal age, they have the ability to vote in representation that may or may not change those policies?
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    Under most situations, yes, those are reasonable expectations.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    >>And since the bill will be passed down to our children and grandchildren, who can't vote, they are being taxed without representation.<<

    This concern would have more merit if these same folks were speaking up when we got into a protracted war in Iraq, the costs of which our children and grandchildren will be paying as well.

    Instead, they waited until "their guy" was out of office and then decided to start looking at the tab. Politics as usual.
     
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    Originally Posted By piperlynne

    But not in these circumstances?
    So, we should allow 3 year olds to vote? Or just not have taxes period? Or get rid of any government program that can't be financed on a yearly basis (including medicare, social security, military spending, etc)? Because someone that can't vote today, will be able to vote tomorrow And they may not feel as though they are being represented under the current tax situation. And I would contend it is then their responsibility to ensure that they exercise their right to vote representation into the legislative body that controls those tax bills.
    I just don't think the "taxation without representation" in regards to children makes sense in this context. (Again, my opinion)
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <This concern would have more merit if these same folks were speaking up when we got into a protracted war in Iraq, the costs of which our children and grandchildren will be paying as well.>

    You hail a cab. The driver goes too fast, and you're a little concerned but you don't do more than a little grumbling because you get to your destination. Later, you hail a second cab. This driver goes even faster and meanders all around. Do you have the right to complain?
     
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    Originally Posted By DouglasDubh

    <But not in these circumstances?>

    Depends upon who you ask. Just because I explained the thinking doesn't mean I agree with it.
     
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    Originally Posted By Kar2oonMan

    >>The driver goes too fast, and you're a little concerned but you don't do more than a little grumbling because you get to your destination.<<

    If your destination is deep in debt, then you got to your destination.

    But a better analogy is that you got in the cab and the driver decided to take you to a place you didn't really want or need to go, even though he insisted you did. If you questioned the wisdom of the journey, you were shouted down by the driver and his dispatcher. Then, when your stuck in the place you didn't really need or want to go, he leaves the meter running and leaves you sitting there in the cab.
     
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    Originally Posted By Dabob2

    LOL! And you say you've never been to New York! :)

    (But seriously, great post.)
     

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