Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>/// I have NEVER been so insulted by anything I've read on these boards. You don't have a clue of the kind of person I am/// This is a huge overreaction on Belle's part. Look, neither one owes an apology but I found the above quote to be way unwarranted.<< Look, I probably shouldn't have said that because it does, on second reading, sound "overdramatic". As soon as I hit submit I thought "damn ... I sound about 2 seconds away from throwing my hand to my forehead and saying "don't you know who I am?!" But at the same time - it's true. It offended and hurt me more than anyone has ever said to me on the boards before and that's not an exaggeration or overreaction, it's the truth. I usually treat people with respect on the boards even when I'm disagreeing with them and therefore I usually get the same in return. I didn't ask for an apology, or say cmpaley's a horrible person, or any of those things which I think would have constituted an overreaction. If anything, the capitalisation made it sound more dramatic than it should have. I was angry and I was hurt at the time and of course if I'd waited a few days my response would have been different. However, if you think that was "unwarranted", do you think that Cm's repeated posts signed "the sanctimonious, arrogant..." were an overreaction? That's not sarcasm, that's a serious question. Did you think he overreacted to that? I wouldn't have reacted that strongly to being called sanctimonious. Obviously, cmpaley and you wouldn't have reacted so strongly to being told you're committing mortal sin and that you should go re-educate yourself with your religion. Well, good - people are different. And judging from the fact that you copied and pasted the last comment about how he doesn't know me, does that mean you took exception to that too? Why? He doesn't, he's never spoken to me before. This post from cmpaley was the first he's ever directed at me, as far as I can recall. The point is I'm totally over it by now, no hard feelings towards cmpaley, hopefully he has none towards me. From his recent posts I'm starting to understand the sort of person he is and I know he's trying to do the right thing. But I don't see why stating that I was offended was so "unwarranted" or something that I should apologise for.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka First of all, that post was slightly tongue in cheek. Second, she said her feelings were hurt and he basically said "tough". That's just rude. But my favorite part was when cm told LibertyBelle that because she OCCASIONALLY missed church that maybe her religion wasn't important enough to her and that maybe she didn't really want to be in Heaven for eternity. Deep down, that statement fits ALL definitions of sanctimonious.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Vicki Lawrence says you don't have to go to church to be spiritual or believe in God. So there. ;-)
Originally Posted By jonvn "Offered without comment:" I didn't even notice he replied to me. Oh well. I think it's all gibberish, and people trying to corner someone with logic who has utter faith in a system that is devoid of logic is a fool's errand. There will always be yet one more outlandish and inexplicable rule to follow on to the previous. And if you ever get to the end, the catch phrase is "It's just a mystery." So if someone want's to believe in something, they will. They have to wake up on their own to do it. No amount of rational discourse is going to dissuade someone from taking the path of irrationality and superstition. They "know" it's true, and so for them, it is. And anyone trying to tell them otherwise is a tool of the enemy. Works out nicely.
Originally Posted By DlandJB My request stands.>>> I made my meaning of the word as I understood it (overly pious) clear. I also already apologized for hurting your feelings. Perhaps I chose the wrong word after all. Perhaps the word "Bore" meaning a "dull, tiresome or uncongenial person." would be a better way to describe your behavior on this thread.
Originally Posted By DlandJB One last thing in case anyone thinks that I am on the cmpaley payroll, I am not. Moreover, I am not a Catholic either and if anything I scoff at the Catholic ways.>> Nah -- you are just a sock puppet.
Originally Posted By cmpaley >>One last thing in case anyone thinks that I am on the cmpaley payroll, I am not. Moreover, I am not a Catholic either and if anything I scoff at the Catholic ways.>> Nah -- you are just a sock puppet<< That wouldn't be me, though. If I were going to create a sock puppet, it would be with a name of Sanctimonious Hypocrite or something like that.
Originally Posted By TALL Disney Guy Man, why do socks get such a bad rap in WE? disneydad would faint!
Originally Posted By cmpaley If someone were told tell me something about my faith that is contrary to what I was taught and I don't know if it's right or not, I'd look it up or ask someone who knows. On the other hand, if someone tells me that I'm wrong about something relative to my faith and they can and do back it up, then I have no choice but to say, "yep, I was wrong. I screwed up" and moving forward. And DlandJB, I have accepted your apology. I'll accept Fa's as well.
Originally Posted By Mr X >>>And DlandJB, I have accepted your apology. I'll accept Fa's as well.<<< CM, I like you and all, but THAT comment was santimonious as hell! Not to mention petty. I'm sure you could find some other, venial sins in there too. Re-read what Mele wrote on the last page...it makes a lot of sense and YOU need to get over yourself!
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>I have no choice but to say, "yep, I was wrong. I screwed up" and moving forward.<< I doubt you would. In all your posts in this thread you’ve given absolutely no indication you’re capable of moving forward – or moving on. For instance >>DlandJB, I have accepted your apology<< and >>it would be with a name of Sanctimonious Hypocrite or something like that<< just don’t gel. If you’ve really forgiven JB, why do you need to keep bringing it up? How many posts ago was the Sanctimonious comment? Wouldn’t your soul feel freer if you just *let it go*?
Originally Posted By Mr X Course not, Belle. Only confession can do that. *rolls eyes* Which reminds me of a previous comment about how wonderful confession is and how you don't have to "dwell" on the sin after your penance is done. WRONG. Unless the priests are giving out some REAL penances these days instead of 100 repetitions of some prayer (yeah, that IS a punishment though, I'll agree...pretty messed up that they THINK it is though, it should be joyous to say prayers but anyway). You still have to correct the wrong you did in the REAL world, with real penance. I don't care if the catholic church says otherwise. Now that I think about it, I'm amazed that repeated prayer is considered a PUNISHMENT in the catholic church. How screwed up is THAT?
Originally Posted By SingleParkPassholder "Vicki Lawrence says you don't have to go to church to be spiritual or believe in God. So there. ;-)" Then I must belong to the Church of Vicki Lawrence.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>Everyone needs to watch "Fraggle Rock" and live in harmony<< You bring the DVDs, I'll bring the popcorn.
Originally Posted By jonvn Just in case anyone wanted it: <a href="http://www.vickilawrence.com/vickilawrence/index.htm" target="_blank">http://www.vickilawrence.com/v ickilawrence/index.htm</a>
