Originally Posted By Liberty Belle Oh, don't be anxious, Mr X. After all, I was born ON Hitler's birthday, and only 8 days from Saddam, and just look at how good *I* turned out! *evil chuckle*
Originally Posted By DlandJB I share a birthday with Einstein and Billy Crystal. But I know I'm neither as bright or as funny.
Originally Posted By SuperDry <<< *I* share a birthday with L. Ron Hubbard, a cult leader just like Jesus! Maybe that makes ME holy? >>> Better holy than holier-than-thou.
Originally Posted By Liberty Belle >>I share a birthday with Einstein and Billy Crystal. But I know I'm neither as bright or as funny.<< Oh, don't be so hard on yourself, JB. You're just as bright as Billy Crystal, and I'm sure even funnier than Einstein!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I don't share a birthday with a lot of truly cool people. Pretty much B-list celebs at best. My spouse, on the other hand, shares a birthday with the likes of Andre Agassi, Uma Thurman, and (there's nobody cooler than this) Duke Ellington.
Originally Posted By RoadTrip I share a birthday with some pretty interesting people: Nicole Kidman John Goodman Lionel Richie Cyndi Lauper Anne Murray Brian Wilson Martin Landau Danny Aiello Olympia Dukakis Chet Atkins Audie Murphy Errol Flynn (No wonder I adore Cyndi Lauper when most people don't like her much any more.)
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Mr. X --- as I'm again late to the discussion, and I haven't read most of the threads, I don't know all the content. I just wanted to say that I'm sorry your church as a kid told you your mother was in hell. In my church we don't believe suicide is an automatic ticket to hell, because as believers, our sins were forgiven before we commited them, when Christ died on the cross. So if a believer commits suicide, it is already forgiven. We are forgiven our sins when we accept Jesus as our savior. Sometimes as Christians we still have emotional and mental problems. I myself suffer from panic attacks and anxiety, and I know several other Christians who do also. We are not perfect just because we are forgiven, we have the same problems as everyone else. And sometimes those problems are depression and/or anxiety.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney I know now people are going to say, "If your sins are already forgiven then you can do whatever you want and it won't matter." But we also believe that if you are truely "saved", then your desire in life is to become Christ-like, not just run around doing whatever we want. It's still a sin, even though we are forgiven.
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka <<We are not perfect just because we are forgiven, we have the same problems as everyone else. And sometimes those problems are depression and/or anxiety.>> Exactly, and if anyone would know be able to judge your mental anguish and judge accordingly, it would be God. I can't imagine a God who would judge a person in that much pain harshly. After all, being in a depression so deep that one would commit suicide really is hell in itself.
Originally Posted By jonvn "I know I'm neither as bright or as funny." It would be impossible for you to not be funnier than Billy Crystal.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Okay, I'm waaaaaaaay late for this one too, but here is what it actually says in Romans 3:23-28 "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God has passed over the sins that were previously committed, to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus. Were is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works? No, but by the law of faith. Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law." This is saying we are justified by faith ALONE. Also, the first verse is part of the issue we have with making Mary Holy. It says ALL have sinned, that includes Mary. Because we are born sinful creatures. The only one without sin is God, who was born as Jesus, without sin.
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Matthew 13:53-55 gives us light as to why we believe that Mary, the mother of Jesus, had other children. "Now it came to pass, when Jesus had finished these parables, that he departed from there. When He had come to His own country, He taught them in their synagogue, so that they were astonished and said, "Where did this Man get this wisdom, and these mighty works? Is this not the carpenter's son? Is not His mother called Mary? And His brothers James, Joses, Simon and Judas?""
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Also one reason why we believe Mary and Joseph married: Luke 2:41-43 and 48 "His parents went to Jerusalem every year at the Feast of the Passover. And when He was twelve years old, they went up to Jerusalem according to the custom of the feast. When they had finished the days, as they returned, the Boy Jesus lingered behind in Jerusalem. And Joseph and His mother did not know it;" "So when they saw Him, they were amazed; and His mother said to Him, "Son, why have You done this to us? Look, Your father and I have sought You anxiously."
Originally Posted By melekalikimaka I think I remember cm saying that Catholics believe that Jesus' brothers were step-brothers?
Originally Posted By DyGDisney Here is a link to a website that explains the brothers of Christ <a href="http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2318" target="_blank">http://www.apologeticspress.or g/articles/2318</a> I think somewhere in the Bible it refers to them as half-brothers, but I don't have my good study Bible with me. It's my quest to look for that passage though!
Originally Posted By jonvn I think we are forgetting Matthew 6:31-34: Therefore do not worry, saying, ‘What will we eat?’ or ‘What will we drink?’ or ‘What will we wear?’ For it is the Gentiles who strive for all these things; and indeeed your heavenly Father knows that you need all these things. But strive first for the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. “So do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will bring worries of its own. Today’s trouble is enough for today.
