Originally Posted By crazycroc I hope that this TRON movie sucks. (And didn't the first one suck, too? What's all this love for something that well...sucked.) I would hate for Tomorrowland to be over run with TRON crap like the west side is with Pirates crap. I can't wait till they remake "Midnight Madness" and do a layover of Main St. to look like the Bonaventure Hotel.
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>I hope that this TRON movie sucks.<< It just might. * The Black Hole - 1979 * first Tron film - 1982 * Atlantis: The Lost Empire - 2001 * Mission To Mars - 2000 Big hopes, with WDI waiting to go beyond the "blue sky" stage on these film properties ... all duds! The curse continues..... Or will they break it with Tron:Legacy ? It's hard to say. Seems anytime film makers attempt the future, the end results usually come out mediocre. Only Gene Roddenberry and George Lucas have had great success with Star Trek and Star Wars.
Originally Posted By CuriouserConstance ^^^Uh oh Hans, do you see that? Dean said that Black Hole was a dud.
Originally Posted By Bellella I actually thought TRON was pretty good. But no, I do not want Tomorrowland to be overrun with movie references too. Let's see, they've already got three movie-themed attractions, and that's just a bit too much.
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 @oc_dean Ok, I understand what you are saying, but I forgot to put something in that I've been thinking about for a while. It's an idea. It would never happen but ideas are dreams and dreams are what keep us hoping. If Autopia was torn out and a show building of some sort was put there instead or just a different layout of the land with different scenery and such, they could extend the track to make a longer ride. Maybe it doesnt have to be a fast ride, but maybe it doesnt have to be a relaxing little tram. My dad's girlfriend who grew up as a child going to disneyland in the 50's and 60's says that the People Mover was one of the dummest rides ever. She HATES it. She agrees with me that a better ride could be put there. So why dont they put a little more work into it and make an attraction with an actual purpose. We don't need another "relaxing, leisure, etc" ride!!! Maybe a slower moving ride that takes you through a story or events like in a possible show building where Autopia is. It could go a little faster and have spinning capabilities to show things from different angles. There could be a really nice story to it. Maybe having to tie in with the progress of technology. Its just an idea, not saying that that is what SHOULD go there. But anything BUT a simple little stroll around TL ride!!!
Originally Posted By avatarmickey115 ALSO! To explain why teens and young adults wouldnt ride it as much as kids, times have changed and teens today want MORE! They dont like little trams! i have talked to many of my friends about Disneyland, and alot of them say the same thing: "Disneyland is for little kids!" I'm sick of hearing that! I know these kids are missing the whole idea of DL. If they keep on putting things in like Winnie the Pooh (by taking out a classic such as Country Bear Jamboree)...and put in even MORE slow rides with no thought and imagination in them, then Disney will lose even more teens. LOTS of teens still love Disneyland, like me!! But I can guarantee you that MANY people would be unhappy about something like the people mover coming back in. Many people will be happy also...
Originally Posted By Dreamerica They tried Rocket Rods and it was a failure. I thought it was a great idea but the track really couldn't handle it. I don't see anything high speed going up there anytime soon unless they re-work the track.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Sometimes you really have to wonder what the people running DLR are thinking. Not only will they lose teens, but adults who are tired of the dumbing down of the entire experience. When DCA opened I had hope, now I'm not so sure that there is the nerve within the company to take the necessary risks at the Anaheim resort. With that said, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if the People Mover eventually made a comeback just like the Subs did.
Originally Posted By oc_dean You can nix that thought ... OSHA will not allow it - Cannot reach out and be able to touch building walls, etc.
Originally Posted By oc_dean Well ... I guess that's the 64,000 dollar question .. and why nothing has happened in a full decade.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Well ... I guess that's the 64,000 dollar question .. and why nothing has happened in a full decade." Yes, but like the infrastructure for the Subs, the track can be updated and new trams built to meet to modern safety standards. I seem to remember a lot of talk about how the caverns inside the Sub show building were collapsing or some such nonsense, and yet this 50 year old ride is up was up and running today after being closed for nearly 10 years. I don't want the PM to return, but since Disney seems to generally go in the direction of least risk I wouldn't be surprised at all if they brought it back. With some kind of Pixar overlay, of course.
Originally Posted By rader22 As a kid and still to this day have loved the peoplemover. Sure it was a slow ride, but it gave a great view of Tomorrowland. A slight faster tram ride would be great up there, but I don't want to see something like a coaster there. As to teens not liking slow attractions, then that is their own fault and stupidity. A true amusement park doesn't need just roller coasters and thrill rides to be a huge success. These teens need to understand that Disneyland was a place built for families not for them. Then again in today's society, especially here in the U.S. teens have been allowed to become selfish. The light cycles would be a geat attraction as long as they don't try to either copy the stop and start of the Rocket Rods or some other strange form of thrill ride.
Originally Posted By Dreamerica I loved the Peoplemover as a teen. I also loved Space Mountain and could appreciate the park on every level, not just the thrills.
Originally Posted By Yookeroo "For those of you who think it's not futuristic enough, look at it this way: Tomorrowland itself is the ride. The People Mover is simply the ride vehicle." Still not futuristic enough. "All this talk about Disney making Tomorrowland actually live up to the goals Walt Disney established back in 1955 is futile." It really is. I just think it's nearly impossible for a giant multinational conglomerate that's answerable to stockholders to be able to have the sort of vision that a much smaller company answerable to only someone like Walt can have. It's probably pretty unfair to hold them to that sort of standard. I doubt Walt himself would be making the same decisions had he been running a company similar to today's Disney. And it's a shame, if the '50s & '60s version of Disney was around today they probably would be swallowed real quick by an industry giant.
Originally Posted By Bellella They shouldn't have TRON lightcycles on the track. That would be one too many a movie reference in a land that was meant to be dedicated to future progress. I say they should rebuild the track to make it safer for the RocketRods, which they should definitely put back.
Originally Posted By plpeters70 <<...it's nearly impossible for a giant multinational conglomerate that's answerable to stockholders to be able to have the sort of vision that a much smaller company answerable to only someone like Walt can have.>> Not only that, but I don't think they want to take the financial risk either. No matter how hard they try, whatever vision of the future they come up with will be outdated within five to ten years - that's just the nature of predicting the future. And Disney seems to have decided that they're better off not even trying anymore - hence why Tomorrowland has become character/sci-fi land, and why Future World has very little to do with the future these days. Apparently, "The Future" is just to expensive to create today!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 < No matter how hard they try, whatever vision of the future they come up with will be outdated within five to ten years - that's just the nature of predicting the future.> Unless they were to, say, present a land that was supposed to be the year 2300, or 2400. It'll never happen, but imagine a completely re-done TL that is way, way in the future, and so doesn't have to worry about that.
