Originally Posted By DlandDug >>...with only 5 scenes...<< There are "officially" nine scenes in this attraction. I would be willing to disallow "Ascent" and "Descent." The other seven are: 1. Scuttle tells the story (and this is a fully delineated scene, set inside the sunken ship); 2. Part of Your World; 3. Under the Sea; 4. Poor Unfortunate Souls; 5. Kiss the Girl; 6. Love's First Kiss; 7. Happily Ever After. You may not like the scale or staging of a scene, but that doesn't make it "not" a scene...
Originally Posted By ilovefunthings "Yeah, well, I drew a blank." You need to get out more then, get creative! "You may not like the scale or staging of a scene, but that doesn't make it "not" a scene..." Yes, thanks for making an interesting point. Peter Pan ride has 1) House scene 2) London 3) Flying in Neverland with Mermaids 4) Crew on Ship Capture 5) Pan Fighting with Hook on Ship 6) Pan Driving off Happy 7) Captain Hook 7 MAJOR, fully immersive scenes that are huge in scale that your boat flies through on a former "C" Ticket attraction. So now, over 40 years later, we get an attraction with 7 scenes, the largest one being the UNDER THE SEA scene, which pales in comparison to the London Fly over scene, and then, a few scenes the size of a pool table with big black empty transitions in between. Walt would be demanding his imagineers to "Get the HELL back to the drawing board! Im not settling for the TLM ride in the state it is!"
Originally Posted By FerretAfros And as another comparison, here's the room count for the Haunted Mansion, an attraction that was actually classified as an E for its entire life. Keep in mind that some of the rooms are pretty forgettable in the grand scheme of things (Corridor of Doors, much like the Mermaid caves) or the "size of a pool table" (Conservatory and Endless Hallway). 1. Endless Hallway 2. Conservatory 3. Corridor of Doors 4. Seance 5. Ballroom 6. Attic 7. Graveyard 8. Hitch-hiking ghosts And as a point of reference, here's the scene count for Mr Toad, which was most certainly not an E (the current version opened after they ended ticket books, but would probably be considered a C, maybe B). The scenes are small, but well designed to make the most of them. Several of them are quite large (Toad Hall, Countryside and Hell), including Toad Hall which is seen several times during the attraction. 1. Toad Hall 2. Library 3. Weasles in Banquet Hall 4. Moley in Dining Room 5. Countryside 6. London docks 7. Warehouse 8. Explosion 9. Winky's Pub 10. Town Square 11. Court Room 12. Train Tunnel 13. Hell Maybe the room count isn't really what we should be arguing about.
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones I'm developing a mathematical formula that weights rooms in dark rides based on their size, number of audio-animatronics, complexity of AAs, overall speed of attraction, number of riders per vehicle and a few other factors in order to calculate what will be known as "normalized dark ride room size" so that we can accurately compare the number of rooms/scenes amongst the different dark ride attractions. Or I could watch TV instead.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Here's a shot of TLM line on Friday stretching all the way to the entrance of Condor Flats. Yikes. <a href="http://www.disneygeek.com/updates/disneyland_image.php?update_dir=2011_06_03&page_id=19&num_image=2" target="_blank">http://www.disneygeek.com/upda..._image=2</a>
Originally Posted By SpokkerJones When I was 14, I could have done that line standing on my head. Today, not even if you paid me.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA I wouldn't wait in a line like that to meet Walt Disney. Seriously...
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance Omg, that's insane. I wouldn't wait in a line like that to see Johnny Depp vs King Triton in a naked cage fight.
Originally Posted By Mr X I have no idea what you guys are all complaining about... That looks like a typical line for a WATER FOUNTAIN at Tokyo Disneyland! (at least, before the disaster struck...now, I'm not so sure)
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Japanese people will wait patiently for anything it seems. I don't get it. Remember that youtube clip showing the the line for Duffy?
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I found the clip: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XotxKZxUFUA&NR=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...FUA&NR=1</a> I'm sorry, but that's just stupid.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance The only thing I might wait that long for is the chance to punch the stuffing out of Duffy.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA I wouldn't wait in a line that long for plush Walt Disney. Seriously...
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA Random thought. What about a talking Walt Disney action figure? A larger sized, 14" tall Walt Disney, fully-detailed, life-like hair and moustache, with his signature 60s era suit, Smoke Tree Ranch tie and pocket square. Push the button on his back, and hear him say wonderful Disney phrases... "For all who come to this happy place...welcome" "Disneyland will never be completed, as long as there is imagination left in the world" "The idea for Disneyland came about when I would take my daughters to Griffith Park..." "Here in Florida we have the great advantage of size.." "You can't top pigs with pigs" The new Walt Disney action figure could go on my shelf, right next to Captain Jack Sparrow, Iron Giant, Mr. Incredible, The Thing, Chewbacca, the club weilding monster from 'Lord of the Rings' and that creepy blue guy that Alan Cumming played in the 'X-men' movies.
