Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>post #76 I agree it has become very clique on here. Easy to call some one a troll when it can't be proved or disproved. And sad how some one can only post to belittle and put down a first time poster instead of talking about the topic. So I guess until you've been on here only for a year and a half but have posted over 6,400 times. Then you may post your first topic.<<< Hey doombuggy, I can appreciate the sentiment. But there has been a very mean and crude poster in World Events that repeatedly gets banned and has created dozens of sock puppets, many recently. It has made people a little wary.
Originally Posted By ilovefunthings Doombuggy, Muggle, posts 77, 80 Thanks for the support! And the post 73 that said "Dude, it's fine if you don't like it. What you don't seem to get is that it's also fine if other people do." I call major big batch of bananas on this one. I ask you please to show me where I said this. In fact, I will say it now, if you liked the ride, cool! I do not think you are wrong. It is YOUR opinion! To the troll callers, sigh, sigh, bananas foster to those posts! Post 79, thats cool. My friend hates it as it makes her sick. I can see people liking or not liking Cat in the Hat. What is cool though is the ride has zero.zero expectations. While TLM is already the cornerstone of major marketing for DCA. TLM is not simply a sweet little ride we are aqueezing into the park. Goofys new Coaster, yes, no expectations. Little Mermaid high cost D Ticket, big expectations. Though removing the expectations, as a ride on it's own, it simply doesn't cut it. For me. Read that again SLOWLY. For me.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 I call major bananas that post 77 was itself a sock puppet who came on just to agree with you. How convenient.
Originally Posted By Mickeymouseclub Makes me wonder what is our responsibility to "police" LP? We all should report it and not encourage or engage in the behavior. We should accept the responsibility to help the moderators by reporting it immediately. No matter how slight the offense.It is LP responsibility to enforce the standards and our responsibility to help support. If that means LP needs more volunteers or a donation to fulfill this task sign me up! I think the situation is more harmful to LP than to our online identities. That is what I care about: the future of LP
Originally Posted By ilovefunthings "Hey doombuggy, I can appreciate the sentiment. But there has been a very mean and crude poster in World Events that repeatedly gets banned and has created dozens of sock puppets, many recently. It has made people a little wary." And I am put in this category? What did I say that was crude? Rude? I took the time to write an essay about my ride experience on TLM. And, because I am a frequent reader of this board (and first time singer upper!), it seemed to me that, in many of the cases, if someone wrote a topic that ripped into a Disney attraction, that poster would be accused of trolling or whatever. So I wanted to put that out there, that, I in fact LOVE Disneyland. Been a passholder for a decade. And proved to all in my original post that I do like many things Disneyland. I was very sad when I saw TLM. I was like, "Oh no. Please let this not be it." As I loved the movie. And there has been great talks for over a decade of a ride based on the movie. And I think about Disney Imagineers. And the great things they have done in the past. And I was, "this is the best you could come up with" for TLM? So many great ideas could have been made with that space. And it's not really small. Just heavily disappointed. And, once again, I being DISAPPOINTED does not mean I am right.
Originally Posted By ilovefunthings Post 83. Simply, WOW. How about post 80? You are now reminding me of Matt Dillon in MY BODYGUARD! Is DOOMBUGGY a sock puppet too? Been here since 2000. Glad to see good honest posters like DOOMBUGGY and FerretAros here that are honest and real and are not confrontational.
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 "We all should report it and not encourage or engage in the behavior." Already done.
Originally Posted By crapshoot <<Though many of you who rode it should dig down deep and honestly ask yourself, “Is this ride truly what we would expect from a World Class company like The Walt Disney Company?” I say no.>> - Right off the bat, WE are told to fall in line and feel slighted by the WDC. <<So, all this being said, here is why I feel the new Little Mermaid ride is a “C Ticket” ride that gets a grade D:>> - This is no longer valid using it as a true rating system since Disney discontinued this practice in the 1980’s. Sure, it is fun to pontificate the A - E rating system. <<Building: The exterior of the building is nice, though, feels out of place. I mean, this is a park the celebrates CALIFORNIA! How does a Little Mermaid ride fit into this theme? >> - So only if this was Disney Denmark Adventure would this building be relevant? Got it. <<Here we have a ride that celebrates being UNDER THE SEA. >> - Wrong. This is an attraction that celebrates the story between a mythical creature and a human who happen to fall in love but others thwart their true desires as they come from different classes. Sound familiar? <<as I would have not been happy to wait 90 minutes for this ride (which I have no desire to ever ride again.>> - But you will, won’t you? <<And, the clamshell seats, though comfortable were...plastic. And this is my number one issues with the ride. Yes, Plastic.>> - What’s the point? Every dark ride vehicle inside Disneyland, is made of plastic (fiberglass). In fact, I will wager that every ride vehicle in DCA is plastic, maybe except the elevator cars in TOT. Maybe. <<The first Audio Animatronic you see is a pretty nifty Scuttle AA. After that, the ride is all downhill from there. Most of the other figures in the ride are stationary with moving arms, legs that are pivoting on a mechanical motor.>> - How many classic dark rides in Disneyland have full on AA’s? In fact, how many “full on” AA’s can you count inside the (E – Ticket) Haunted Mansion? So yes, it is quite normal and very expected for Disney to use Minimatronics in place of AudioAnimatronics for this level of attraction. >>And, the lighting in all the Disney dark rides feel’s great. Especially in Peter Pan. It sets the mood. TLM ride lighting seems neutral, flat. No dimension to it.>> - If it was a soft opening, then it is to be expected that tweaks will be made to the attraction. <<TLM ride fails to do this. Never once was the illusion of water created in an effective way.>> - Really? You mean the transition zone where the ride vehicle sinks below the surface is a weak effect? Oh this I got to see, since it is widely hailed within the themed entertainment industry. <<Also, Imagineers, why, why, WHY did you go with CGI for some of the filmed moment of the ride? These already look dated! Though, there is a wonderful use or 2 of Hand Drawn animation in the ride! Why did you mix the medias?>> - As I have yet to experience the attraction, my first thought is that Walt Disney himself was very successful at mixing medias together, like animation superimposed over live action. So I will wait to make up my own mind on this particular complaint. <<The scene had NO SOUL. There was no character to it, I don’t believe there was one true AA in it, just plastic looking mannequins bouncing around on mechanical-thing-a-ma-bobs.>> - Earth to ILOVEFUNTHINGS; Why is it that you keep expecting that WDC would justify $250,000 per Audioanimatronic figure in order to populate a classic style Disney dark ride? That just isn’t a reasonable expectation. <<The Ursula sequence: WELL DONE. The first true, wonderful AA in the ride. With pretty good lighting. However, the ride fails in telling a story, going anywhere with Ursula.>> - My recommendation is that you shouldn’t have set out to hate this attraction the moment you saw the show building. You quite possibly could have enjoyed more of it if you had gone in with an open mind. << This ride feels like a “greatest hits” moment from TLM, with an abrupt ending that makes no sense. While rides like Pinochio, Peter Pan, Snow White actually jam a cool little mini version of the entire movie. TLM ride fails to do this.>> - Really? I generally find it difficult to glean the story of Peter Pan while riding Peter Pan. Alice? Even weaker in hitting anything but its “Greatest Hits”. Snow White and Pinocchio are a bit better at presenting a linear story, but even those fall apart at times. And Toad? Good grief. No story what so ever. <<When the ride was over I actually said to my friend, OMG, that is it? We were both shocked at how short it felt and how abrupt it ended. A total letdown I do not have the desire to ride ever again. >> - Yeah, that smacks of someone without an agenda and possessing a full open mind. Honestly, if I were you, I would ride it several more times before posting your assessment. Then after doing so, write down your thoughts regarding the attraction. But before posting it online, stick it in a desk drawer for a few days. Then re-read it and maybe see that many of your complaints are silly rants without substance.
Originally Posted By ilovefunthings "- Right off the bat, WE are told to fall in line and feel slighted by the WDC." Not at all. I did not say WE. I said "I". "- This is no longer valid using it as a true rating system since Disney discontinued this practice in the 1980’s. Sure, it is fun to pontificate the A - E rating system." One of the biggest online authorities of Disneyparks, that is referenced here many times, Al Lutz, uses the term all the time to decribe the size and scope of the ride. And he has many times used "D" ticket to describe TLM. So, he is my reference point, and, I feel, it's a valid use of a ride description. "- So only if this was Disney Denmark Adventure would this building be relevant? Got it." Huh? "- What’s the point? Every dark ride vehicle inside Disneyland, is made of plastic (fiberglass). In fact, I will wager that every ride vehicle in DCA is plastic, maybe except the elevator cars in TOT. Maybe." Not true at all. Haunted Mansion made of rugged metal. As is Mr. Toad's cars. The point is, TLM LOOKS plastic. The clamshell was a set up of the bigger picture problem with TLM ride. "- How many classic dark rides in Disneyland have full on AA’s? In fact, how many “full on” AA’s can you count inside the (E – Ticket) Haunted Mansion? So yes, it is quite normal and very expected for Disney to use Minimatronics in place of AudioAnimatronics for this level of attraction." But TLM is not a dark ride per se. It's a ride that is on a higher, costlier level. And, even with the plain dark rides, the stationary character do NOT look plastic. "- Wrong. This is an attraction that celebrates the story between a mythical creature and a human who happen to fall in love but others thwart their true desires as they come from different classes. Sound familiar?" Subjective. And, the centerpiece for the ride is the UNDER THE SEA sequence. A bit literal, huh? "- If it was a soft opening, then it is to be expected that tweaks will be made to the attraction." 3 days before major open. And, I had a conversation with an imagineer standing outside the ride and they told me, the lighting we see in there is final for at least June 3 (I hope they revisit it!) "- Really? You mean the transition zone where the ride vehicle sinks below the surface is a weak effect? Oh this I got to see, since it is widely hailed within the themed entertainment industry." Yes, it is a weak effect. Many have agreed with this. If you like it, cool! But in the special effects world, it's cheesy B movie, not cool Spielberg film. "- As I have yet to experience the attraction, my first thought is that Walt Disney himself was very successful at mixing medias together, like animation superimposed over live action. So I will wait to make up my own mind on this particular complaint." Oh, Ok. So you havn't actually been on the ride. Like me reviewing the latest Pirates movie by watching the trailer on TV. The mixed media usage is a shocker, doesn't work...for me!!! (adding that to those who accuse me of thinking I am only the right answer! Not the case! If you liked the mixed media, good for you!) "- Earth to ILOVEFUNTHINGS; Why is it that you keep expecting that WDC would justify $250,000 per Audioanimatronic figure in order to populate a classic style Disney dark ride? That just isn’t a reasonable expectation." I read you loud and clear EARTH! Please. Read. My. Post. Slower. Since. Transmission. Is. Breaking. Up! Thank. You. "- My recommendation is that you shouldn’t have set out to hate this attraction the moment you saw the show building. You quite possibly could have enjoyed more of it if you had gone in with an open mind." Ha! Oh, bananas to you now! Making up your mind on how I am? I came out here just to ride the ride. I have clearly described my love for TLM the movie. Did not want to hate this ride at all! Though, I wonder, where did you acquire this ability to detect this? "- Really? I generally find it difficult to glean the story of Peter Pan while riding Peter Pan. Alice? Even weaker in hitting anything but its “Greatest Hits”. Snow White and Pinocchio are a bit better at presenting a linear story, but even those fall apart at times. And Toad? Good grief. No story what so ever." Some agreements here. Though we are talking about an attraction that was intended to tell a story. It starts off with a narrating animatronic, who sets the story into place, then, the story degenerates into blandness. "- Yeah, that smacks of someone without an agenda and possessing a full open mind. Honestly, if I were you, I would ride it several more times before posting your assessment. Then after doing so, write down your thoughts regarding the attraction. But before posting it online, stick it in a desk drawer for a few days. Then re-read it and maybe see that many of your complaints are silly rants without substance." Or, this smacks of someone who simply does not want to hear anything negative about Disney! Bananas to you my friend!
Originally Posted By ilovefunthings Oh. And please do actually go on the attraction! So we can have a more insightful and legitimate conversation about it! Thanks!
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "How about post 80?" Did I mention post 80? No, I mentioned the actual sock puppet. That a bona fide poster agrees with you does not negate your earlier use of a sock puppet to do so.
Originally Posted By ilovefunthings It's all good, Dabob. If it makes you feel better that you feel there is a sock puppet poster on this board, when, in fact, longtime posters like post 80, Doom Buggy, X, and Ferot do not agree with you, good for you!
Originally Posted By Princessjenn5795 <<"We all should report it and not encourage or engage in the behavior." Already done.>> <<Me too!>> You reported yourself and Muggle too?
Originally Posted By ilovefunthings Not at all Princess! My report was comprehensive and wise minds will prevail. Though bananas to you for the personal attack!
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "- Right off the bat, WE are told to fall in line and feel slighted by the WDC." Right, and I'm the instigator. Don't miss that part.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt "Makes me wonder what is our responsibility to "police" LP?" Report him. This person has been reported to the moderators a hundred times already and he keeps returning with a new handle every few days. Hopefully he'll grow up and stop harassing people here.
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "It's all good, Dabob. If it makes you feel better that you feel there is a sock puppet poster on this board, when, in fact, longtime posters like post 80, Doom Buggy, X, and Ferot do not agree with you, good for you" People disagree with each other all the time here. That's not the issue. The issue is the lame and immature practice of creating a sock puppet just to agree with yourself. Nice try at misdirection, but fail.
Originally Posted By ilovefunthings Wow Admin. Dr. Hans posts speak for themselves, in showing the pot calling the kettle black. I appreciate, admin, your review of the email sent. There is no harassing mind except in the heads of a loud vocal minority who simply cannot accept criticism. In fact, I read Dr. Hans saying "Little Mermaid is Spectacular" or something to that effect. Yet I, nor others, who did not like the attraction harass him. Though since post 31, we had a really nice conversation going on here, then, Dr. Hans stepped in and began personal attacks on the TC. Post 97, bananas!
Originally Posted By ilovefunthings X, Ferot, please help put this topic back on track. I will now completely ignore bashers except with the simple use of the word "bananas".
