Lone Ranger Stunt Show

Originally Posted By jonvn

"If it has to rely on synergy, it is not (MILF..."

Wait, they have a ride based on MILFs? Maybe they're not trying to appeal to just the kids after all.

"It's not about the synergy - it's about the quality of the attraction. "

Exactly! The synergy comes from the attraction being good, and boosting film revenue. If the attraction is lousy, it just means nothing that it is based on a character. The fact is, having something based on a character is meaningless in the theme park. All it does is drive film sales. People will go on something if it is good whether it is based on a character or not.

 

Originally Posted By TP2000

Since the new Lone Ranger movie doesn't come out in theaters until Summer 2010, and since the Disneyland stunt show is currently just a one sentence rumor from a Jim Hill article a few months ago, I think we can safely say this is no where near a done deal.

However, if Disney does decide to do a big-budget Lone Ranger movie for the summer of 2010, then a stunt show in that unused Big Thunder/Festival of Fools arena is a no brainer. They've staged fairly elaborate stage shows at Disneyland based off of less promising movies than the Lone Ranger.

In the 1990's Disneyland would roll out a new parade or new stage show based on whatever cartoon movie was coming out that summer;
1995 - Spirit of Pocohantas Show
1996 - Hunchback Festival Of Fools
1997 - Hercules Victory Parade
1998 - Mulan Night Parade

A western stunt show in that huge Festival of Fools arena would be an easy decision for TDA to make if Burbank is really confident The Lone Ranger will be box office gold in 2010.

We'll have to wait until late '08 or into '09 though before we get some solid rumors on what shows up there for Memorial Day Weekend, 2010.

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

An E ticket type of stunt show would not fit in that arena. That's a pretty filmsy thing. If it were a major addition, I'd expect a large ampitheater type setup with water, a fake canyon, and the like.

 

Originally Posted By TP2000

Maybe they could open up the back a bit more and have the passing trains be part of the scenery? It would add some festivity to the train riders too and be a big improvement over staring at a wood fence with laundry buckets and fake wanted posters as you go from the River to Toontown.

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

I think that wood fence is there to cover over the fantasmic stuff.

 

Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt

The idea of a stunt show in the hot blazing Anaheim sun bores me. Of course I'll wait to see what they do before passing judgement, but I'm of the opinion that Disney has run out of ideas.

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

Maybe the show will be good....

However:

If they put woody or any other such thing in there, it won't. It'll be annoying and I won't see it.

If they do something cool, with some grittiness to it, that'd be a lot better. You know, with like people getting shot and fake blood and stuff.

If mickey shows up in a cowboy outfit, that'd kill it.

 

Originally Posted By lesmisfan

my question is why a stunt show? that area of the park is prime real estate for a new and improved attraction or even land, i would rather them save the money from the not opening this new stunt show if we can get a really neat ride or even land with a few new rides in it instead.

 

Originally Posted By BlueOhanaTerror

The Lone Ranger movie is definitely in development. As to whether an attraction is also in the works, it's a rational assumption, but I can't get any confirmation. Jim Hill guesses most of the time, so chances are 50/50, probably.

>>>"A WELL-MADE Western will do just fine."

And what makes it well made? The fact that you can't see the boom in any of the shots?<<<

A well-made Western is one where all the elements - plot, production value, script, cast - are pulled together with integrity and class. Over the last decade, those have been exceptions, but they've pulled in respectable box office, and defied the naysayers who repeatedly proclaim the death of the Western.

Filmmakers are, largely, not fascinated with that era anymore. The public, however, doesn't come to genres with that kind of prejudice. Give them something good, with a decent push, and there's a fair chance they'll discover it, and discover that they like it.

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

I really don't think the Lone Ranger can possibly qualify. The story is silly. If they go for the traditional story, it's corny beyond belief. If they don't, it's not really the Lone Ranger.

 

Originally Posted By SFH

I got it.

Maybe the Lone Ranger is married. And he's haunted because his wife looks like the woman in an old painting... even though they are different races.

And there are ghosts.

Never mind.

SFH

 

Originally Posted By Dyznydad

Lone Ranger stunt show.
Ick.
First off, the film may not do very well.
Remember the Atlantisizing of Tomorrowland. Oops. (I liked the movie, btw). But, that didn't last very long (and it probably cost a lot of money).
Stunt shows, to me, represent a cheaper type of theme park. A theme park unwilling to spend good money on a well imagineered ride that could last for ages.
Instead of building a lasting ride, some would rather hire assorted actors, have them lip synch bad dialog, and have them perform overly choreographed moves due to safety regulations. The worst thing is, the viewer remains a simple, distant observer to the action.
Sitting at a distance, and, despite the hyped up cries of the lip synching performers, you tend to feel unsatisfied. I have always felt hallow, cheapened and unmoved by these "stunt show" productions.
I mean, would you rather have the "Indiana Jones Stunt Show" or the wonderful "Indiana Jones Ride" where you are in the middle of the action?
It's a no brainer to me.

 

Originally Posted By Sweeper

Didn't Universal have a stunt show for years? And wasn't it just removed?

Maybe it is just me, I can't stand any of that wild west shoot'em up show stuff. Just boring.

 

Originally Posted By Moderation

Well, on one level, I understand everybody's concern over quality and repeatability. But deep down, I don't care if it ends up 12 dancing hippos in bloomers with a pipe works brass band if it makes a good faith effort to put entertainment back into what is now little more than unused corporate barbeque space and takes a couple thousand people off the other lines in the middle of the day.

 

Originally Posted By Spirit of 74

Synergy is overrated, so is tying an attraction to a 'hit' movie.

Alice in Wonderland wasn't a big hit for Disney, but she's got a popular ride (two if you include the Tea Cups). Most kids today have no idea (sadly) who Roger Rabbit is, but look how popular that Toontown attraction is. Heck, how many people even know the Matterhorn was inspired by a little-known Disney live-action flick?

I personally think that if Tony Baxter had been allowed to bring the subs back five years ago as Atlantis Expedition Sub Voyage it would have been as popular or more so than the current Nemo overlay. And we all know Atlantis, while not an abject failure at the box office, wasn't exactly a hit.

So Disney could theme a stunt show to the Lone Ranger one way or the other.

But I don't think that's what will happen at all. I keep hearing E-Ticket attraction or ride for Frontierland. Not stunt show.

But I've been wrong before.

 

Originally Posted By ChurroMonster

How is a stunt show an "E-ticket"?

 

Originally Posted By berol

if it cost big wads of cash or was fantasmic-good perhaps

 

Originally Posted By Dyznydad

Stunt shows are definitely not E Ticket.
More like A or B. Is there a letter before A it could be?
Here ya go.
You exit Fantasyland through the large wooden gates. The red mountains rise before you. To your left, you hear people screaming on Big Thunder and see the train fly by. To your right (your brain still in a "fantasy" mode) you see an old ranch sign that says "Woody's Wild Water Caverns." You walk into the line area and find yourself in an old barn structure (sort of like the entrance to the old Country Bears). Old "fifties" Woody memorabilia surrounds you. Old black and white TV's entertain you with classic "Woody" TV shows. You make it to the loading dock. You enter a log boat on water. It takes you inside a cavern, where the old Prospector warns you of explosives in the mine. Jessie is yelling for Woody. BOOM. You fall down a waterfall. You ride through some desert scenery. You see Woody, and he tells you we have to hurry. The boat becomes a "roller coaster" vehicle, you fly around, and finally enter a large saloon where Woody, Jessie and all are singing. This leads you back to the loading area.
That is an E Ticket ride.
It is not something where I sit on a bench and watch people fall onto pillows.

 

Originally Posted By jonvn

"Woody's Wild Water Caverns."

Not to say this is a bad idea on your part, but I would basically start to refuse to go on these sorts of things, and if it continued to be the only thing presented, just stop going altogether.

If they keep making the same things via a formula and just change the presentation, it's going to start losing customers. The place is already overdone with cartoons. If they don't start putting more variety in, it's going to be excruciating to go to.

I don't want to spend my time at the place just doing one cartoon after another. If they can't make something else, I have no interest in seeing it.

 

Originally Posted By danyoung

>How is a stunt show an "E-ticket"?<

I think what the Spirit is alluding to is that he's hearing that the Lone Ranger concept will come in as an attraction, and not a stunt show.