Originally Posted By leemac <<On the bright side maybe we won't get TLR shoehorned into Big Thunder Mountain>> When there is a ready-made ABC pilot to plug instead?
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <<Guillermo del Toro is still attached but he is so busy theses days that I doubt he will make it any time soon. >> And who knows what's going to happen with del Toro. Apparently tracking is very soft on Pacific Rim even worse than Lone Ranger. The geek movies sites are going crazy about but that's kind of their thing. And they kind of have a kinship with del Toro, who while no doubt is a talented guy has had middling success with the mainstream.
Originally Posted By leemac DWA bought Classic Media a year or so ago - Classic also own stuff like Casper and George of the Jungle.
Originally Posted By leemac <<And who knows what's going to happen with del Toro. Apparently tracking is very soft on Pacific Rim even worse than Lone Ranger. >> Although his budget is allegedly $100m less! Pan's Labyrinth was an amazing movie - simply stunning. However I don't think he has ever lived up to his hype - particularly in his writing roles.
Originally Posted By choco choco Gonna repeat something Amy Sherman-Palladino said in an interview: "Marketing really runs creative. The fact that there's content at all shocks me." And this is the reason why no Disney production has been able to create anything worthwhile in the last few years, despite the insane talent they've hired. Now who wants to tell me Brad Bird's Tomorrowland is gonna be good?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros >>It [William Tell Overture] isn't used until towards the end of the movie - I think the marketing folks want to deliberately distance themselves from the previous versions.<< That seems like a very foolish decision to me. Personally, I have little interest in watching a modern, gritty western. If I'm going to see one (which probably wouldn't be my first choice), I'd like for it to have more of the classic feel, where everything is just a little nicer than it really should be. The Lone Ranger brand to me summarizes that perfectly, yet they're trying to shy away from it. I don't understand what their thought process is with that, since it seems like it's not doing much to interest other people either, but they sure seem convicted to it Also, I tend to follow Disney films relatively closely, but I hadn't heard about Pacific Rim until I read about it here a couple days ago. To say that it has no buzz is an understatement. What's it even about? Was it previously under another name?
Originally Posted By Dabob2 "I am still shocked the advertising hasn't used the William Tell Overture." Josh, strangely enough, the commercial I see here by far the most – far more than any ads for the movie itself, is one of those Tie-in ds, in this case for time warner cable. They use the William Tell overture, and it actually makes the movie look better than any ad for the movie itself I've seen! I agree also that Del Toro has never really lived up to the promise of pans labyrinth, but seeing that movie still makes me interested in seeing what he could do with the haunted mansion.
Originally Posted By planodisney Leemac, I was just wondering if you had any knowledge if everyone is pleased with Monsters performance. Thanks
Originally Posted By leemac <<Re post 46-Brad Bird has yet to make a bad film.>> Yeah but Damon Lidelof has - both Prometheus and Cowboys & Aliens were awful. The guy is a TV writer - a very good one too. However his big screen work suffers from the same problems that all of the JJ Abrams' alumni stuff does - overworked and obvious.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Also, I tend to follow Disney films relatively closely, but I hadn't heard about Pacific Rim until I read about it here a couple days ago. To say that it has no buzz is an understatement. What's it even about? Was it previously under another name?>> It isn't Disney FA. It is a Legendary/WB co-production. Del Toro has never been based at Disney - he was going to be heavily involved in Disney Double Dare You until it was shuttered after Dick Cook was sacked.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Gonna repeat something Amy Sherman-Palladino said in an interview: "Marketing really runs creative. The fact that there's content at all shocks me." And this is the reason why no Disney production has been able to create anything worthwhile in the last few years, despite the insane talent they've hired.>> Love that quote. Sadly Disney only make tentpoles movies now and that means stuff that is inherently marketable. So they take a concept ("reengineered western with Johnny Depp") and work on that rather than buying spec scripts.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>Yeah but Damon Lidelof has - both Prometheus and Cowboys & Aliens were awful. The guy is a TV writer - a very good one too. However his big screen work suffers from the same problems that all of the JJ Abrams' alumni stuff does - overworked and obvious.<<< Luckily none of Abrams' writers will write the Episode VII script. I have neither seen Prometheus nor Cowboys vs Aliens, but nearly everyone didn't like it. I just hope Abrams doesn't get too much influence on Star Wars. He should just direct it. I really don't get it why Lucasfilm, the production company of the movies, brings in another production company, Bad Robot.
Originally Posted By Jim in Merced CA <-- liked 'Cowboys and Aliens' -- for the most part. The first hour was real solid. So, for recent blockbuster movies, that's a pretty good stretch of celluloid.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Luckily none of Abrams' writers will write the Episode VII script.>> I loved both Alias and Lost - and the writing teams led by the likes of Kurtzman, Orci, Appelbaum and Nemec were perfect for those vehicles. The problem is that writing for features is very different. Prometheus was probably the biggest disappointment I've seen in years - just obvious and incredibly dull. They dropped the ball badly. Kurtzman and Orci have been spread way too thin - the first two Transformers films and Cowboys & Aliens were poor IMHO.
Originally Posted By leemac << I really don't get it why Lucasfilm, the production company of the movies, brings in another production company, Bad Robot.>> JJ will only work with his people so when you contract with him you get all of them. I don't think anyone other than Michael Arndt has worked on the screenplay though.....yet. Bad Robot is an old-school production company - like Amblin and Kennedy/Marshall - you hire their expertise rather than one individual.
Originally Posted By leemac Latest news is a bit more positive for The Lone Ranger - 4 day weekend of $70m. However DM2 is tracking for $110m+.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>Bad Robot is an old-school production company - like Amblin and Kennedy/Marshall - you hire their expertise rather than one individual.<<< Isn't it still a bit different? If you hire Kennedy and Amblin or her Kennedy/Marshall company, you hire the production company since she will act as producer and not as director. When it comes to Episode VII LFL hired Abarams as director but not as producer. Does Spielberg always bring in his production company DreamWorks SKG or Amblin? >>> I don't think anyone other than Michael Arndt has worked on the screenplay though.....yet.<<< Hopefully that doesn't change. I mean he won an Oscar and both his screeplays for TS3 and LMS were wonderful. Abrams guys should stay away as far as they can. They shouldn't even think that they can "improve" Arndt's work. I loved LOST too, it's still one of my favourite shows and they did a good job there, but as you said, television is different than a movie.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>Latest news is a bit more positive for The Lone Ranger - 4 day weekend of $70m. However DM2 is tracking for $110m+.<<< At least some positive news. I'm still curious why DM2 will be such a success. Based on the first one, it can't be good. However I just talked to a colleague and DM is his favourite animated movie, she likes it better than all Pixar movies. Even if I put my love for Disney/Pixar aside, most Pixar movies were better than DM.
