Originally Posted By leemac <<See I'm not sure about Tranformers it could see a drop like Shrek, Spidey and Pirates saw with their fourth films.>> On Stranger Tides had such a weird gross - over 75% international. There was definitely franchise fatigue with Shrek. Marc Webb's Spidey also had good international legs.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 Just to address your point about Finding Dory taking too long between films, audiences did wait that long for Toy Story and look how that worked out. And it could be argued that the characters from Nemo are just as popular as Woody Buzz and co. One last thought before I go it seems the one Pixar sequel that many people want but may never happen is an Incredibles sequel
Originally Posted By WilliamK99 One thing to keep in mind is X-Men is similiar in scope to The Avengers, it will have an epic feel to it and involve both sets of casts from First Class and the original trilogy.. It could either be a cluster or knock it out of the ballpark..... Based on what I have seen thus far, it's going to be incredible..
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance I think one problem with Lone Ranger is no one is really sure who this movie is suppose to be for. It's a Disney movie, but it's rated PG-13, so probably not a good idea to bring little kids, but is it good enough to leave kids at home and go see? Probably not. So no one ends up going.
Originally Posted By leemac <<It could either be a cluster or knock it out of the ballpark..... Based on what I have seen thus far, it's going to be incredible..>> I'm genuinely excited by it too - I don't know the comic book at all but the concept sounds fascinating. I still think that Jane Goldman and Matthew Vaughn wrote the best comic book screenplay I've ever seen - it was an absolutely brilliant story. It almost made me forget about Vinnie Jones and the excrement that was X-Men: The Last Stand - or the Origins: Wolverine movie come to think of it!
Originally Posted By leemac <<I think one problem with Lone Ranger is no one is really sure who this movie is suppose to be for. It's a Disney movie, but it's rated PG-13, so probably not a good idea to bring little kids, but is it good enough to leave kids at home and go see? Probably not. So no one ends up going.>> A couple of my colleagues have said that it shouldn't have had the castle at the front as it wasn't kiddie friendly. It is definitely a very different "Disney" branded movie.
Originally Posted By CuriousConstance I agree. Disney branded movies should be doable for families. PG-13 isn't want disqualifies it in my mind. I take my kids to PG 13 movies sometimes. Usually superhero movies. That type of violence is usually very different from the violence we are likely to see at LR, and I'm not willing to sit through that with my kids.
Originally Posted By MouseBear Salutations All, The Lone Ranger is truly awful. I loved reruns of the TV show as a kid and this movie does everything it can to ruin an iconic character. Don't waste your time or money on this disaster. MB
Originally Posted By ecdc And the ringing endorsements keep pouring in! Come on, Disney. Let's step it up.
Originally Posted By DDMAN26 <a href="http://forums.boxoffice.com/index.php?/topic/10862-wednesday-numbers-despicable-me-2-33-35m-the-lone-ranger-13-15m-kevin-hart-3-4m/page-24" target="_blank">http://forums.boxoffice.com/in.../page-24</a> At the top of the thread I'm linking to RTH gives us the most accurate numbers. LR could be under 10 million. That is not good
Originally Posted By dagobert So after reading through all new comments, it seems The Lone Ranger is going to fail big time. As for DM2, I didn't know that it was produced in France. I still don't get why so many bad movies are so popular. I have never liked the slap stick humor that much and although some Disney and Pixar movies have thar as well, I still prefer Pixar over any other animated movies.
Originally Posted By leemac <<So after reading through all new comments, it seems The Lone Ranger is going to fail big time.>> Looks like a 5 day gross in the $55m range at best at the moment. Looks like it might top out in the $100-150m range. Factor in weak tracking abroad and this one is going to lose Disney a fortune. If it tops out in the $300m range in total that will be $250-300m write-off for Disney - pretty much wipe out the profitability of Iron Man 3.
Originally Posted By dagobert Slashfilm did a very interesting interview with Gore Verbinski, director of Lone Ranger. <a href="http://www.slashfilm.com/film-interview-the-lone-ranger-director-gore-verbinski-we-are-on-a-crazy-road-to-extinction/" target="_blank">http://www.slashfilm.com/film-...inction/</a>
Originally Posted By leemac I wonder if he sees the irony of a man that has spent over $1bn on 4 features? He is happily spending the studios' money so if the industry is to go the way of the record industry and is on a road to extinction then he is certainly helping it along its way.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>Looks like a 5 day gross in the $55m range at best at the moment. Looks like it might top out in the $100-150m range. Factor in weak tracking abroad and this one is going to lose Disney a fortune. If it tops out in the $300m range in total that will be $250-300m write-off for Disney - pretty much wipe out the profitability of Iron Man 3.<<< That doesn't sound good at all. So I would guess fiscal year 2013 will not be that great for the studios. Only MU will be successful. Thor 2 starts in October, that's fiscal year 2014.
Originally Posted By dagobert >>>He is happily spending the studios' money so if the industry is to go the way of the record industry and is on a road to extinction then he is certainly helping it along its way.<<< I haven't seen Rango yet, but Verbinski isn't a great director. He was lucky with POTC I and although I enjoyed watching POTC II & III, they weren't very good.
Originally Posted By leemac ^^ Planes is bound to be a $1bn movie, right? It will be an odd fiscal year for Studio Entertainment - Wreck-it Ralph only broke even, Oz has lost over $100m, Iron Man 3 has made $100m for Disney (if it is 50:50 with DMG), MU will make money and then Ranger will write-off every cent of profit this year. It is amazing how little the Studio has made under Iger's watch. Sadly for every The Avengers there seems to be a John Carter. Lack of consistency in their tentpoles is killing profitability.
Originally Posted By leemac <<I haven't seen Rango yet, but Verbinski isn't a great director. >> Rango is.....quirky. Very quirky. John Logan is an absolute genius - best writer in the world right now (he did Skyfall recently and also two exceptional plays in Peter & Alice and I'll East You Last) and it works a treat. The animation style is unique enough that it keeps you engaged. It is overlong and patchy in places though.
Originally Posted By leemac <<I haven't seen Rango yet, but Verbinski isn't a great director.>> I don't think he is great but he certainly seems adept at handling big setpieces. I really didn't like either The Weather Man or The Mexican though - both were very messy IMHO.
Originally Posted By dagobert I forgot Planes. By the way I've just seen a promotion over here for a very similar movie. I think it's called Jets. Under Eisner Disney made so many different movies under so many different labels and I wish they would return to that. Maybe after 2016.
