Originally Posted By AaronInCal No matter how much you plan ahead, things happen at the last minute. That was the case with DCA's tree this past Christmas. Even Disneyland's tree had dark spots after the first few days it was up from where sections of lights quit working for whatever reason. That happens every year. Christmas lights are notorious for stuff like that, no matter who is installing them. Everyone knows DCA does need more stuff to do, but constantly complaining about it does nothing. Give them time.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig >>>Everyone knows DCA does need more stuff to do, but constantly complaining about it does nothing. Give them time.<<< They had 5 or 6 years of conceptualization, design, and construction to get what they got. Now it's been open for almost 6 years, and it ain't much better. And it will be at least a decade more before the park is just "ok", and probably at least another decade or more beyond that when it maybe will be really good. Is that time enough? Meanwhile, Animal Kingdom was spectacular, thematically at least, the day it opened. Tokyo Disney Sea was spectacular, both thematically, and attractions-wise, the day that it opened. Those were the two parks that opened most recently before and after DCA did. Both thoroughly enjoyable right out of the box. But we have to wait until at least 2010 before DCA gets it's first unique E-ticket, if it does at all by then, and we have to wait until maybe 2021 or 2031 before all the slow paced retheming finally scrubs away any memories of the washed out stripped down "hip and edgy" stucco schlock that was foisted upon the public on opening day back in 2001? Give them time? They've had enough time! They know the place is a substandard failure. Go in now and fix the place up already! We've waited long enough!
Originally Posted By oc_dean >>"But it does show that they gave Disneyland the main priority, and that DCA was treated like a step-child."<< My favorite is the tv commercials running throughout SoCal networks .... After the first seconds of images of the "Rockin'" coasters .. they state the 2fr1. In the time they say "buy 1 park" (they show Disneyland) .. when they say "Get the other park FREE" .. they show DCA! SEE ... EVEN their marketing campaigns are geared to show DCA ain't so bad if they do some gimmicky imagery/soundtrack to paint a picture that DCA is free. Almost 6 years have past by. That IS a long time. I gave up on this inferior park from day one. On my PAP ... I think I've been in DL 20 times in 2 years .. in 2 years I stepped into DCA .. one for a LP meet .. the other to see Monsters Inc. Disney/MGM built up more in 6 years compared to this abandoned "step child".
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt “They had 5 or 6 years of conceptualization, design, and construction to get what they got. Now it's been open for almost 6 years, and it ain't much better. And it will be at least a decade more before the park is just "ok", and probably at least another decade or more beyond that when it maybe will be really good. Is that time enough?†ArchtMig, this is about non-working Christmas lights, not major conceptualized construction projects. It is apparent that the Holiday installations overwhelmed whatever department was responsible for them and some things were put on the back burner until the problem could be rectified. Once again this is just another dig at DCA when, according to witnesses, there were issues with the lights all over the Resort.
Originally Posted By ArchtMig >>>“They had 5 or 6 years of conceptualization, design, and construction to get what they got. Now it's been open for almost 6 years, and it ain't much better. And it will be at least a decade more before the park is just "ok", and probably at least another decade or more beyond that when it maybe will be really good. Is that time enough?†ArchtMig, this is about non-working Christmas lights, not major conceptualized construction projects. It is apparent that the Holiday installations overwhelmed whatever department was responsible for them and some things were put on the back burner until the problem could be rectified. Once again this is just another dig at DCA when, according to witnesses, there were issues with the lights all over the Resort.<<< Hans, as you know, these threads tend to take on a life of their own, as their subjects morph into something very different from what their first posts intended to discuss. I really don't have a problem with the non-working Christmas lights on the DCA tree. From all accounts, the techs got them all working in due time. I understand the difficulty in decorating and transforming Disneyland and DCA for the holidays, and I give them a pass during the early stages when the stuff is still a work in progress. That's why I haven't even commented on the tree or the other decorations, for that matter. My comments were based upon the suggestion that the "complainers" (and I place myself squarely in that group) in essence stop their complaining (at least that's what I read into it) because Disney is supposedly improving the place. Well, I'll never forgive their arrogance and blind shortsightedness in really blowing their opportunity for building a truly worthy (read "Disney") second gate in Anaheim, after we waited so many years for a companion park to Disneyland. And I'll never forget it until the place is transformed and improved enough to where I feel that it finally, really is thoroughly enjoyable all by itself without making me feel eager to just walk out and get back into Disneyland just across the Esplanade. When that day will come? Who knows, but I suspect it will take years and years, and at this point in time, there is apparently no real hurry to address the aspects that I hate the most about this park. They just want to add rides, which is ok, I guess. But vast areas of the park are still butt ugly, (and offensive, really, to some of us that expect a much higher degree of immersiveness and creativity from Disney) and may very well stay that way for decades according to current expectations. So we complain.
