Originally Posted By MPierce >> I think it would have been pretty great, even without the trees. People loved the "lantern" parade of EPCOT, why not in DAK? Also, it could have handled some sort of acrobatics, if they positioned them ON the parade route instead, perhaps. << I agree. The lantern parade would have been spectacular. Maybe not actrobats, but certainly Disney has enough creative people to come up with an alternative.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo Hi Spirit, I need to send replies. I got them on my Blackberry but had trouble with the PC (not the feds I'm sure). I have been trying to get the IT sorted and will hope to shoot you some replies soon. a brother who fell down and we thought he died (he has been under some observation), coupled with some major work challenges means the IT took a backseat.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I agree. The lantern parade would have been spectacular. Maybe not actrobats, but certainly Disney has enough creative people to come up with an alternative.<<< Exactly. It doesn't need to be over done, but it just needs SOMETHING.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Pyro wasn't the issue - it was performers hanging and swinging from trees above guests' heads that was the operational nightmare. I just wasn't going to work. Those performers needed to be along the entire performance corridor and so you couldn't have added acrobatic reinforcements to EVERY tree. It was just plain unworkable. It isn't a cop out.>> Nope, Lee, you misunderstood me. Or part of me! What I meant was you don't need to have pyro to have a nighttime show/spectacular. Things like the Mulan parade at DL would be a great example of doing things at night that don't end with a bang. That was my point there. But I also believe that logistically things could have been done to make RoL viable. <<So you would have been stuck with the lantern parade - pretty but unspectacular.>> I don't buy that. Mulan's parade at DL was very much like that and was very popular. ... But I also believe that something else could have been weaved into the performance. There are a few elements I can think of (but would rather not suggest them here). ~Donny Osmond~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<And just to be crystal clear - Rivers of Light was entirely independent of the premium niche park - one was not ditched to work on the other.>> Perhaps, ditched isn't the right term. But there is no way they were going to give folks a reason to stay at DAK at night, and pay to staff/run the place, at the same time they opened a boutique animal experience. That's just not the Disney way. That would be like keeping EPCOT open until 11 nightly in summer and THEN adding EMH two nights a week for resort guests. ~9-7~
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer If they run o e parade in the day, they can easily do it at night.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<As an aside though, Steve Davison creates amazing spectacles for Disney (I have truly enjoyed everything the man has worked on, even Luminaria). That said, it's almost like he is totally blind to real-world/ops factors when he designs his spectacles.>> <<I vehemently disagree with you there Spirit.>> Good. More like old times. Feel like it's been ages since we vehemently disagreed on anything! <<Steven is totally aware of logistical issues when developing his parades and spectacles.>> That may be true, but to see the ops nightmares many of his great additions bring give me pause to that notion. Or perhaps I should rephrase. Maybe he is quite aware of the issues, but thinks his shows are worth the hassles they often bring. <<The operator is brought in early to the process and asked for advice. Both DLR and DCA Ops agreed that they could handle Remember.... and WoC - what else can he do? Steven is a creative director - he needs to stick to what he does best and consult for outside advice.>> No disagreement there. But common sense would dictate that many of his shows create hellish conditions for those trying to experience them. I often fear for stampedes when crowds get bad and I always make sure I have an 'escape route'. And I also hate what Wishes did to the MK by making Main Street and the Hub a giant, hot, sea of concrete to make sure folks could see the show from upfront ... and sadly, all those trees were removed for one of his weakest shows and one in which you really don't miss much if you can't see the very few projections on the castle. ~Spirited Steven Davison Fan ... Really!~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> Please tell me that you got my last few emails, Dave. I'd hate to think they are sitting in an analyst's cubicle in Quantico! << <<The F.B.I. already sent me a copy of them. I'm recommending that they extend their surveillence of you an additional 3 months.>> Hah! Trust me, I absolutely believe they are watching me for sooooo many reasons (sadly, probably including posts here in the LP!) ~Hey, Fred, did you see this guy eating his dinner?~
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Hi Spirit, I need to send replies. I got them on my Blackberry but had trouble with the PC (not the feds I'm sure). I have been trying to get the IT sorted and will hope to shoot you some replies soon.>> No problem. Just paranoid because they ARE out to get me! <<a brother who fell down and we thought he died (he has been under some observation), coupled with some major work challenges means the IT took a backseat.>> I don't know what to say other than I am sorry to hear about your brother. We definitely need to talk again soon. ~Lots of Spirited Good Karma Across The Pond!~
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo <<So you would have been stuck with the lantern parade - pretty but unspectacular.>> Well Tivoli Gardens do one set to the stories of Hans Christian Anderson. It is fantastic. If there were lanterns shaped like animals in asian, african, native american etc. styles paying tribute to aboriginal art, with a stimulating score, I am sure it would have been hugely popular. Add in some unique lighting effects to the Tree of Life as a centre piece, it could have been excellent.
Originally Posted By FenwayGirl We spent at least a day and a half at AK and we usually have 3 -4 kids with us. They love it!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I think I am going to forgo park hopping in Dec. and do a whole day in DAK. SHould be interesting. Maybe without the "We have to leave" mentality, I'll be able to do some more "quieter" things.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> If there were lanterns shaped like animals in asian, african, native american etc. styles paying tribute to aboriginal art, with a stimulating score, I am sure it would have been hugely popular. Add in some unique lighting effects to the Tree of Life as a centre piece, it could have been excellent. << I really, really, really like that idea!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I think I am going to forgo park hopping in Dec. and do a whole day in DAK. SHould be interesting. Maybe without the "We have to leave" mentality, I'll be able to do some more "quieter" things. << Make sure, and schedule for the night they have EMH so you gets your moneys worth.
Originally Posted By A Happy Haunt I found the early morning openings more beneficial. But that's just me!!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I found the early morning openings more beneficial. But that's just me!! << But you don't get to see the Park at night Happy.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Make sure, and schedule for the night they have EMH so you gets your moneys worth.<<< Certainly going to try to, but we also have Poly/Kona reservations that night.
