Originally Posted By HokieSkipper If TSMM wasn't so damn good I'd agree. And say what you will, AIE is a very well done show. I'm not a fan of it, but it is well done. And they fit with the overall theme of the park. Walmarting doesn't hold when the things are actually quality.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> It TSMM wasn't so damn good I'd agree. And say what you will, AIE is a very well done show. I'm not a fan of it, but it is well done. And they fit with the overall theme of the park. Walmarting doesn't hold when the things are actually quality.<<< In my eyes, Walmarting has nothing to do quality...It's on the content. It's a good thing it's good quality, that would be much worse.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I want something original, already! Disney is all a bout great story telling....when are they going to let the parks/WDI do their own stories again?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper You're not gonna get that. You're just not. Complain about it, as will I, but don't knock down things that actually turn out to be quality because they aren't original.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> don't knock down things that actually turn out to be quality because they aren't original. <<< You basically just told me to not expect great things out of the company that gave us The Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean, EPCOT Center, the Adventurers Club, and half of Animal Kingdom, Tokyo Disney SEA...and the same company that's creating Mystic Mannor it's land over in HKDL. No. I hold them to that standard, despite the foolishness and mismanagement, and synergy laden walmart products that they try and sell us.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<You basically just told me to not expect great things out of the company that gave us The Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the Caribbean, EPCOT Center, the Adventurers Club, and half of Animal Kingdom, Tokyo Disney SEA...and the same company that's creating Mystic Mannor it's land over in HKDL.>> Not at all. Read what I wrote. I said complain about not getting original rides, but don't bash things that are QUALITY just because they aren't 100% "original". There's nothing wrong with a well done character ride at all. It's when things like UNM, SGE, MILF, etc is the aborations that should be torn down. I want just as many new HMs as you do, but I'm not gonna bash an attraction that is quality.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer And read what I wrote! Nor will I. Quality is quality. We'll see that in FLE with TLM. But do I want and expect better? Of course.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper No where did I say to not expect quality in my post. I'm just being a realist and telling you you're not going to get original attractions, because the Weatherman doesn't want them.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I don't think it's the weatherman that's against it. Nor is it WDI. Remember, there were a slew of "original" ideas waiting for both DAK and EPCOT, before they were killed...by TDO. I think the problem, as always, lies there.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper I really don't agree. TDO doesn't give 2 craps what attractions get built as long as their as cheap as possible. They didn't want the FLE either, remember? Iger has gone on record saying he wants attractions that promote "franchises"(his favorite word).
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I really don't agree. TDO doesn't give 2 craps what attractions get built as long as their as cheap as possible. They didn't want the FLE either, remember?<<< But they loooove attractions that make money for them in terms of merch.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Of course they do. But they know other rides can do that as well. E:E generates a nice amount of revenue.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>> E:E generates a nice amount of revenue. <<< I had been waiting for you to get to that..... SEE!?!?!??!?! LOL. They can do something like THAT! They did that well, why not more things?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Yet, they do them ocasionally, and they make money. I don't get it.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> And read what I wrote! Nor will I. Quality is quality. We'll see that in FLE with TLM. << We don't know that yet.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> They can do something like THAT! They did that well, why not more things? << Are you forgetting the Yeti?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>We don't know that yet.<<< I'm honestly confident that TLM will be a very nice, elaborate Omni/Dark Ride. It'll be great, even if it's a D Tic. >>Are you forgetting the Yeti?<< That's maint, I think, not WDI, but no one can know for sure.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> I want something original, already! Disney is all a bout great story telling....when are they going to let the parks/WDI do their own stories again? << Epcot has very few attractions that are based on Disney movies. Soarin', SSE, Mission: Space, Canada update...none of those recent additions or updates are based on the despised characters. DAK has added very few characters in the years since it opened. I expect MGM, given its theme, to draw on movies. And MK is what it is. The recent attractions that use characters have run the gamut from inspired (Philharmagic) to mediocre (Laugh Floor) to forgettable (Tiki and Stitch). Characters aren't the problem. Quality is.
