Originally Posted By TDLFAN Wenches and stuff are there but were repositioned to look as if they are chasing the pirates away...and the pirate by the barrel no longer holds a panty hose in his hands. Is that is not making the ride PC, I don't know what is....
Originally Posted By -SIR- The guy sitting in the barrel with the girl looking out is also now talking about his "treasure" and where he buried it etc. He use to talk about looking for the "wench" He wanted to "Hoist his colors upon" Disney changed that as well as making the women look like they were chasing after the Pirates... Not as bad as taking the "auctioning" sequence out alltogether i guess.... the boats were quite backed up when i went (well into the burning town)... my only complaint
Originally Posted By WDW1974 Pirates at the MK was made PC at least five years ago (well over according to the sibling standing next to me) ...been quite a while. As to the Hub, what can I say? I think it looks awful. They have ruined another part of the MK. No trees, no planters, no shade, no benches ... all for a very watered down show from Tokyo (that is at its best at night, right TDLFAN?) that will only play for 18 months. Walkways? Well, Al Weiss told the O-Sentinel that the walkways were cleaned every night last year in response to the 'This Old Park' story and we KNOW AL NEVER LIES!
Originally Posted By basas I really don't think the hub is that bad...TDLFan i don't get how you can like the wide-openness of TDL's hub but the same wide-openness at MK you call a sun-tan location. lol. Please explain
Originally Posted By TDLFAN It's part of my duality to confuse you all. Personally, I have suntanned at TDL's hub many many many times, but at least *that* hub have some tall trees around it, and benches too, which are missing from the MK's at this particular time. That may change once they finish their redesigned hub.
Originally Posted By WDW1974 You kind of have to admire Disney ... first they took away the water (20,000 Leagues lagoon) and now over the past year they have taken away the trees (first in Town Square, then up at the end of Main Street and now, finally, the Hub) ... perhaps they could remove the sun too (or just eclipse it with Eisner's ego)!
Originally Posted By basas See, i really don't think that that is such a bad thing. Both the removal of high trees near the castle, Town Square, and the Hub were all for a good reason (to provide better viewing of castle shows, Wishes, etc.)...it wasn't cost-cutting or anything. And the removal of the 20K lagoon had to happen sooner or later if we want to see some expansion so i'm glad something was finally done.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<And the removal of the 20K lagoon had to happen sooner or later if we want to see some expansion so i'm glad something was finally done.<< and what will I see first -- the Cubs in a world series or the replacement E ticket for 20,000 Leagues ?
Originally Posted By basas Who knows...i still bet something will happen within a few years in terms of a major attraction. Nevertheless, i still prefer a themed meet and greet to an abondoned lagoon for the time being.
Originally Posted By WDW1974 <<See, i really don't think that that is such a bad thing. Both the removal of high trees near the castle, Town Square, and the Hub were all for a good reason (to provide better viewing of castle shows, Wishes, etc.)...it wasn't cost-cutting or anything. And the removal of the 20K lagoon had to happen sooner or later if we want to see some expansion so i'm glad something was finally done.>> You have to get real here. Disney is putting in a meet-and-greet where the subs once surfaced. That's it. Maybe in 5-10 years, something else will go there. But nothing has been remotely approved ... all I see is water and trees being removed, which makes the MK feel even hotter than it is with the Florida sun beating down. Main Street feels naked to me now (in addition to feeling like an outlet mall gone bad). And, VBDAD, considering what the Red Sox did, I think the Cubs might well win the Series before a true replacement for the sub lagoon is built!
Originally Posted By basas <<Disney is putting in a meet-and-greet where the subs once surfaced. That's it. Maybe in 5-10 years, something else will go there. But nothing has been remotely approved ... all I see is water and trees being removed, which makes the MK feel even hotter than it is with the Florida sun beating down. >> The subs closed 10 years ago- it was pretty obvious to everyone they weren't coming back. If they had closed to subs to put a meet and greet on, it would be different. But i see the meet and greet as taking over an abondoned area rather than a ride. Plus, keep in mind the meet and greet is taking up a VERY small portion of the avaliable space.
Originally Posted By WDW1974 ^^^But you are forgetting that they've used the subs queue as a meet-and-greet for many years now already ... in effect, the meet-and-greet did replace the subs.
Originally Posted By basas Yes, and i never said i approved of them closing the Subs in the first place. However, i would rather have a small meet and greet with a ton of space to expand to with new attractions over a small meet and greet in a closed-attraction queue. We all knew the Subs were never coming back so why would we want the lagoon to continue to sit empty? Whether or not we get a new attraction right away, we're still one step closer than we were a few years ago.
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I can't believe that nobody has mentioned the Astro Orbiter yet. That looks naked without the planets. It might make sense if there weren't the huge holes in the bar for them, but it just looks terrible the way it is. It would look better even if the planets didn't move. Also, I know it id because of the young trees, but it is really sad that you can see the Toontown tents from the 20K area. I know it will get better with time, but they could have also just put in older trees. And the garden area looks really exposed. They sould either plant more flowers or put down mulch or something. It is very delapitated looking.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 <<I can't believe that nobody has mentioned the Astro Orbiter yet. That looks naked without the planets. It might make sense if there weren't the huge holes in the bar for them, but it just looks terrible the way it is. It would look better even if the planets didn't move.<< So what you are saying is that the ride is back operational and the planets have been removed ? I knew they had taken it 'down' for a rebuild - but I thought when it re-opened it was to have all parts working again ?
Originally Posted By WDW1974 <<Also, I know it id because of the young trees, but it is really sad that you can see the Toontown tents from the 20K area.>> What's worse is you can now see the buses that pick CMs up at the tunnel entrance (behind Toontown) while on the Peoplemover because of all the trees and rockwork removed when the lagoon was 'reclaimed.' Great job, Phil Holmes. Maybe you'll get a $50,000 bonus this year .... wait, this is Disney, maybe you'll get $3,000!
Originally Posted By basas <<What's worse is you can now see the buses that pick CMs up at the tunnel entrance (behind Toontown) while on the Peoplemover because of all the trees and rockwork removed when the lagoon was 'reclaimed.>> I will agree that that is bad...
