Originally Posted By jmuboy How amny rooms is the resort supposed to have? s it all family suite style? Or a mix or regular room and suites?
Originally Posted By vbdad55 When has Disney last attempted to raise the bar in O-Town? --------- I actually think Mission:Space was that attempt -- I think they missed on it- but for what they spent I think they were trying to raise the bar on that one - would you not agree. I also think Fantasmik was an attempt to raise the bar for fireworks displays
Originally Posted By vbdad55 "When you add into this mix the rabid Walt Disney World fan boys who attack anything online they perceive as negative about the resort (to the sheer delight of the management there, whose use these posts to justify further cutbacks) along with the many WDW-focused sites that delete critiques of any kind, it practically insures that the East Coast complex will only continue to fall further behind quality-wise. They get the parks they deserve out there I guess..." --------- there is a huge gap between Disney Pollyana and those who aren't willing to just rip on most everything. I criticize plenty - but disagree with some of the criticism-- I think most arguing viewpoints here fall either into that category or the Disney blooows category...most of the pixie dust posters are long gone
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I actually think Mission:Space was that attempt -- I think they missed on it- but for what they spent I think they were trying to raise the bar on that one - would you not agree.>> Yes and no. I love Mission: Space, and I think the ride system does a pretty good job of being innovative, but it fails when you consider the complete package. The queue is mediocre, the unthemed, unending hallway at the end is laughable, and the post show really doesn't have much EPCOT-y goodness. Compare that to something like Spider-Man or Forbidden Journey or Haunted Mansion or the Jungle Cruise, and it's not even close. <<I also think Fantasmik was an attempt to raise the bar for fireworks displays>> If it wasn't a cloned show, I'd agree with you.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I criticize plenty - but disagree with some of the criticism-- I think most arguing viewpoints here fall either into that category or the Disney blooows category...most of the pixie dust posters are long gone>> Very true. But this is one of the few sites that tolerates discussing the negatives of WDW. Most sites are now bought and paid for by the Mouse's social networking goons, and erase anything negative about the parks. When you're driven off a site because you're critical about a few things, it's pretty ridiculous, and just strengthens the belief that the Mouse can do no wrong.
Originally Posted By vbdad55 that's why although I once also frequented another site as well but haven't for a while now... there has to be give and take. nowhere and no one is perfect.. although people may agree/disagree on what elements based on personal taste.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>An F ticket like Uni has would be awesome too.<<< Post of the Day.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>"When you add into this mix the rabid Walt Disney World fan boys who attack anything online they perceive as negative about the resort (to the sheer delight of the management there, whose use these posts to justify further cutbacks) along with the many WDW-focused sites that delete critiques of any kind, it practically insures that the East Coast complex will only continue to fall further behind quality-wise. They get the parks they deserve out there I guess..."<<< Wow...What MAGICal realm is THAT? No freaking idea. ;-)
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Yes and no. I love Mission: Space, and I think the ride system does a pretty good job of being innovative, but it fails when you consider the complete package. The queue is mediocre, the unthemed, unending hallway at the end is laughable, and the post show really doesn't have much EPCOT-y goodness. <<< Agreed totally. It just needs to be a full pavilion. And I would say that E:E was a VERY good attempt at trying and to raise the bar. But...seeing that the Yeti is dead, that's negated.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<And I would say that E:E was a VERY good attempt at trying and to raise the bar. >> *Sigh* I wish I could say it was. But I honestly don't think it was. I think Joe over valued the queue, and forgot about the ride. Because other than the temple on the lift, broken trestle, and the yeti, the ride is so bare.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I actually think Mission:Space was that attempt -- I think they missed on it- but for what they spent I think they were trying to raise the bar on that one - would you not agree. I also think Fantasmik was an attempt to raise the bar for fireworks displays << Agree, also I think with EE.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I wish I could say it was. But I honestly don't think it was. I think Joe over valued the queue, and forgot about the ride. Because other than the temple on the lift, broken trestle, and the yeti, the ride is so bare. << It's suppose to be. The Himalayan Mountains aren't exactly a swinging local.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<It's suppose to be. The Himalayan Mountains aren't exactly a swinging local.>> Not the point I'm trying to make. Look at the rockwork around BTM's helixes. Then look at the absolute lack of rockword around EE's.
Originally Posted By MPierce Different kinds of landscapes. I think the focus for EE is the size of the Mountain while for Big Thunder it is on a much smaller more intimate scale. I do understand where you are coming from on this. I also think that BTMRR is sometimes overlooked, and underrated for it's detail, and just all around fun scale as an attraction.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Meh. I just don't think it's okay to have as much unthemed track that EE does. Especially when the company hails it as some break through E-ticket. I enjoy the attraction, but I can't help but feel it was a missed opportunity.
Originally Posted By MPierce The Mountain is desolate just like in real life. The focus is on the ride vehicle the broken track, and the broken Yeti. The themeing can only take place in the queue. The mountain is so well done many consider it the weenie of DAK.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper I think you might be misunderstanding what I'm saying. I don't want random show scenes or plants or anything. But after the big hill, and during the helixes, you're on bare, unexposed track with absolutely nothing there for a good 20 seconds. It completely destroys the illusion and theming quality.
