Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ I think that's supposed to be the train track itself, Hokie. LOL Tell you in Dec.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> I think you might be misunderstanding what I'm saying. I don't want random show scenes or plants or anything. But after the big hill, and during the helixes, you're on bare, unexposed track with absolutely nothing there for a good 20 seconds. It completely destroys the illusion and theming quality. << But what do you want in a barren mountain setting?
Originally Posted By MPierce >> ^ I think that's supposed to be the train track itself, Hokie. LOL Tell you in Dec. << Does this mean you will be riding in December?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<But what do you want in a barren mountain setting?>> Rockwork. Anything! It just seems like such a normal coaster during that part.
Originally Posted By MPierce What does the Matterhorn have Skipper? It didn't even have a Yeti when I rode it last.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> I just don't think it's okay to have as much unthemed track that EE does. Especially when the company hails it as some break through E-ticket. I enjoy the attraction, but I can't help but feel it was a missed opportunity. << I agree. At least with Big Thunder you have animals, the flooded town, bats, earthquakes, the dinosaur bones--all of which makes the ride feel more complete. I couldn't care less about the queue. I'm gonna Fastpass it anyway, so the ride better be good when I finally get onboard. >> I think that's supposed to be the train track itself, Hokie. LOL << Why would the "realistic" train track twist and turn like a roller coaster track? It's just sloppy showmanship. At least Big Thunder doesn't try to convince me that it's an actual mine train--it's fantasy, and light on heavy-handed story, so it works for me. <<But what do you want in a barren mountain setting?>> If the setting is thematically barren and there's supposed to be nothing to look at, then perhaps this wasn't the best theme for a big blockbuster ride.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Why would the "realistic" train track twist and turn like a roller coaster track? It's just sloppy showmanship. At least Big Thunder doesn't try to convince me that it's an actual mine train--it's fantasy, and light on heavy-handed story, so it works for me.<<< Isn't that part of the story, and part of the mystery? In that vein, you could ask the same of BTMR...
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Isn't that part of the story, and part of the mystery? In that vein, you could ask the same of BTMR...>> But as he said, BTM doesn't pretend it's anything else than a roller coaster/fantasy.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> In that vein, you could ask the same of BTMR... << >> But as he said, BTM doesn't pretend it's anything else than a roller coaster/fantasy. << EE's story--which I admit I don't know the details of--is that you're riding a real train, so it makes sense that the first part of the ride is rather scenic and tame. But Thunder Mountain, to its credit, has no such pretense. It's simply "the wildest ride in the wilderness."
Originally Posted By MPierce EE is a train ride through the wilderness of the Himalaya Range to get you to the base of Mt. Everest. You are invading the Yeti's territory. If he wasn't broken he would be taking a swipe at you to keep you out. That's why the track is torn up, and why it's called forbidden mountain. The themeing has to be in the queue. It can't be on or inside the barren mountain.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper MPierce, you're completely missing what I'm talking about. So I'm going to drop it since I can't find a picture of the ride section I'm talking about. And even then, saying there "can't" be theming is lazy.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>EE's story--which I admit I don't know the details of--is that you're riding a real train, so it makes sense that the first part of the ride is rather scenic and tame. But Thunder Mountain, to its credit, has no such pretense. It's simply "the wildest ride in the wilderness."<< I guess. But, doesn't EE also follow the "something went terribly wrong idea?" If it does, that could justify the erratic behavior of the train.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>And even then, saying there "can't" be theming is lazy.<<< How else do you make a barren mountain barren?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<How else do you make a barren mountain barren? >> Make it look like a mountain and not exposed roller coaster track? And there is life in the Himalayas, so yea.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper Right, trestle that magically makes helixes in an exposed, absolutely 0 theming area. You haven't been on it so you don't know what I'm talking about.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> How else do you make a barren mountain barren? << Why design an expensive ride around the concept of a barren mountain? Although, as Hokie pointed out, they could've added more in the way of scenery ato make it less barren.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>You haven't been on it so you don't know what I'm talking about.<< Seen the vids... And it's never bothered me. And that's from sokenone who isn't screaming and under the effects of adrenaline while watching. LOL.
