Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<I don't believe that the company differentiated between the spend allocation - the amount was material enough that it needed to be disclosed to Wall Street but no specific data on that spend.>> Oh okay cool! So wow they are litterally pumping $1.5 billion in this phase alone? WOW!! Thats quite amazing to me. Again, thats more than TWICE of what they spent on the original park. Hell, its more than the ENTIRE expansion of DCA, GCH and DTD combined!! <<Spend for Phase II needs to come from the increased revenue generated by the park itself - it needs to be self-sufficient after CarsLand otherwise it won't get another phase of development. It would probably be "Game Over" for DLR too as I doubt that the company will ever drop this type of coin again on the west coast.>> Wow, to be honest thats a little scary to me . I wonder how long after the expansion is complete and they start analyzing attendance patterns and spending before they deem all of this a sucess or failure? I truly hope the park really suceeds this time because it sounds like you are saying not only future extensions of DCA may not happen, but future big projects for DL as well? I dont know, I know its only been about a week, but it looks like WOC is brining them in and I'm guessing the crowds will be all summer for it. So its a good sign at least. <<The overspend on RSR is entirely down to John Lasseter. Therefore if you love that attraction you have him to thank. He wanted Radiator Springs to be a plussed-up as possible irrespective of the cost.>> I just some of the 'what's next' video and this area looks like it will be amazing! No clue if it will be worth the coin when its done, but I'm more excited now, its all I can say .
Originally Posted By leemac <<Leemac, what's the deal with hotels though? Why haven't we seen or heard anything regarding future hotel development and/or an expansion of DTD? Is the company waiting to lay plans after it sees how the DCA expansion pans out?>> Hans - there aren't any plans to add hotels to DLR at present. Anaheim is a very competitive marketplace and although the three DLR hotels have good occupancies numbers there just isn't the demand for 5* resorts in Anaheim which is the only market that DLR would be interested in - the Grand is just about enough. We all thought that the Main Gate Hotel was a "Go" for construction in '00 as it would have relieved the pressure on the Paradise Pier Hotel and Disneyland Hotel and allowed both of those to be completely remodelled - however it was deemed that there wasn't sufficient demand. It is a shame that full-scale remodelling can't happen on those two ageing hotels - I wanted to demolish both of them and start again. I doubt we will ever see an expansion of the DtD concept - being tied into the cyclical nature of the specialty retail sector isn't what DLR had in mind - having to suffer through two recessions before your tenth anniversary isn't great. Look at how many tenants have come and gone and how many units DLR now managed like Disney Vault and D-Street. There may be scope for more dining but I doubt we will ever see the Phase II development that was on the cards back in '01.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>With or without the tooning of the parks, I would think visiting a foreign country would be better than going to a theme park.<<< It's not a foreign country, it's a domestic visit for us.
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo >>>They had a history show in a small theater and it was always empty, I kind of doubt a Cali history lagoon show would've wowed psrk visitors.<<< To quote Bananarama, it's not what you do, it's the way that you do it.
Originally Posted By LOVE-DCA DLP-not Disneyland park.. disneyland paris!! lol thanks for pointing that dave! yes thanks leemac for the info!
Originally Posted By davewasbaloo No worries LOVE-DCA. Sorry, I get into shortened letters mode without thinking sometimes. lol.
Originally Posted By LOVE-DCA ohh no i wasn't commenting on your short hand i wanted to clarify i thought that someone else thought that DLP meant disneyland park.. lol lol i know what it means
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt Behold, the first wig wag for the trolley line has been installed: <a href="http://www.disneygeek.com/updates/disneyland_image.php?update_dir=2010_08_20&page_id=4&num_image=3" target="_blank">http://www.disneygeek.com/upda..._image=3</a>
Originally Posted By TP2000 Wig wag! It still needs to be painted, but nice to know the wig wags are arriving. Just what DCA needed. Anyone else notice how nice every new part of DCA is when its revealed? Like the rockwork wall and built-in bench shown in the picture above, with brick lined streets and fancy lightposts. It's all noticeably a couple notches more expressive, and likely more expensive, than the types of surfaces and streetscapes DCA opened with in 2001. It looks great!
Originally Posted By FerretAfros I don't think it will be getting painted. It's current color (basically bare aluminum/stainless steel) is accurate to what would have been around in the time of the Red Cars. While not the most beautiful thing in the world, it certainly isn't bad, and adds a lot of authenticity to the feeling of the area. The only part that kind of bugs me about the new Red Car area by TOT is the big gate on the north side (toward the Animation Building) between TOT and a bug's land. The rest of that area has really nice lush landscaping, and then the gate looks like it's a remant of the walled-in courtyard that made TOT feel so awkward. Out of the plants, there is this enormous gate, with a very tall wall on one side for CM access, and all in the style of the wall surrounding the TOT expansion area. If it was attached to something or themed to fit in with the plants more, it would be better, but it just looks so completely random now.
Originally Posted By Dr Hans Reinhardt I was noticing that in the Disneygeek update. I think in time, when the vegetation grows in, it will be less noticeable.
Originally Posted By TP2000 I also think they know that gate will eventually lead to more of the actual theme park. It may take years, but it's going to be a real street that leads to somewhere eventually, and so they didn't want to spend a huge chunk of money on that corner.
