Originally Posted By MPierce DAK needs to be explored. Go out, and ride the tram in the parking lot if you need excitement.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^^^^ LOL. I have, I have (explored, not trammed) but rides are part of that.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> Great point (for once!), Pierce. << <<If you throw enough BS around you're bound to attract at least one fly.>> I figured as much! >> Although time seems to slow down when I'm far, far away! << <<Being locked up in a Chinese prison does have that effect.>> I'm more worried about being locked up in an American prison for following the law (and fighting those who don't) then I am of ever winding up in a Chinese prison (although I am convinced just typing these words puts us on the NSA radar!)
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<I definetly agree. They have added several very nice attractions since 1998. However I don't think anything that could possible measure up or even come close to KS. That's including Expedition Everest.>> EXACTLY! <<If they would just get everything working, put up some blackout curtains, and it's a strong E, in my opinion. The queue can make or break an attraction, and EE's is one of the best. EE is stunning, and a visual enhancement to the entire park. That's Expedition Everest, not our own EE. Though I'm sure he does enhance the Park with his presense. That is when he takes the time to show up!)>> I dunno ... too many trees and live icky things!... He'd rather ride a fiberglass elephant than see a real one!
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >>>Just use your eyes. Take it all in. You don't even need to ride anything. Although it's impossible for me to go by KS without going in.<<<< <<I know. I do that. But after about half a day, you want to ride a few more things. Same with WS... Love it to death, I have spent all day there (EPCOT only trips are amazing.) but when in a theme park, I want to ride more than 3 rides. Good thing FW is there. >> I worry when even the smart fanbois would rather ride 'rides' than take in the entirety of a theme park experience. What's scary is when the fanbois turn 37 and they still only want to ride Space Mountain and PoC 12 times a day!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Same with WS... Love it to death, I have spent all day there (EPCOT only trips are amazing.) but when in a theme park, I want to ride more than 3 rides. Good thing FW is there. << I could spend the entire vacation there, and never get on one ride.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>I worry when even the smart fanbois would rather ride 'rides' than take in the entirety of a theme park experience.<<< Why not do both? That's what I do, anyway.
Originally Posted By CaptainMichael Bringing back EO will do more harm than good IMO. Unless the profits from EO merch are going straight to an account specifically for an Imagination refurb.
Originally Posted By dshyates "There deliberately is minimal story. The scenery and the wildlife are the story - the DAK team wanted something that had a relevant sub-message - that of ecology and sustainability - and it works perfectly. I can't even begin to comprehend why someone would not think that KS is a flawless attraction - it brings African wildlife to a central Florida setting with all of the headaches that come with it (climate, horticultural differences etc.) but it works perfectly. You could be in Kruger or any other game park - and in fact probably can see more wildlife than on a real game drive." I guess I phrased it wrong when I said thin shallacking. I would actually prefer KS without the uber-contrived storyline. I think it would have been better with a stronger more informative spiel about the problems being faced on the Preserves and African wildlife. Kind of a real live version of the True Life Adventures series. And less like a movie script. Don't get me wrong I really like KS, but I think the story actually detracts from what could be an exciting and more educational attraction. I think this is a great case where the attraction itself should be the star.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>Bringing back EO will do more harm than good IMO. Unless the profits from EO merch are going straight to an account specifically for an Imagination refurb.<<< It's something new, and that's needed in WDW when we don't have a ton of new attractions opening up. New, being the operative word, of course.
Originally Posted By leobloom >> Don't get me wrong I really like KS, but I think the story actually detracts from what could be an exciting and more educational attraction. I think this is a great case where the attraction itself should be the star. << The story is too contrived. The "safari guide" aka bus driver job is like a poor man's Great Movie Ride hosting job. Complete with "acting" (or should that be "hamming") and simulated "suspense." Nature doesn't have to be an adventure. It's quite enough without the theatrics.
Originally Posted By xrayvision So, has anyone recently been to Epcot to see the re-installed EO movie attraction? I'm still wondering if they're using the motion floor installed for HISTA to create motion effects for the re-installed EO show (as was done for DLR's EO Tribute).
Originally Posted By leemac <<I think it would have been better with a stronger more informative spiel about the problems being faced on the Preserves and African wildlife. >> Because there is already a Florida theme park that does that. It would have felt too "Busch-y".
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>So, has anyone recently been to Epcot to see the re-installed EO movie attraction? I'm still wondering if they're using the motion floor installed for HISTA to create motion effects for the re-installed EO show (as was done for DLR's EO Tribute).<<<< I've read reports that the motion floor is used a lot in EO.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Because there is already a Florida theme park that does that. It would have felt too "Busch-y"." Isn't that the entire reason they built the park? Too much money going to Busch Gardens and NOT into Disney's pocket? When is Disney's Marine Park built entirely of Legos being built?
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Orlando DisneySEA.... I don't know if I would be thrilled that is was here, or horrified because so many great little details and theming would be, undoubtedly cut, or left in horrible maint.
Originally Posted By DAR <<but also is a show quality wreck and because of that can't be considered more than an average coaster with a kewl queue.>> The few times I've been to EE I'll ride once with a FP then the next time I ride I'll take my time and look through the queue.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Isn't that the entire reason they built the park? Too much money going to Busch Gardens and NOT into Disney's pocket?>> Nope that isn't the reason which is why DAK isn't a clone of Busch Gardens. The motivation behind DAK had nothing to do with a need or desire to out-do Busch in Tampa. There aren't that many overarching themes for theme parks...
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<EE - sadly it is like a hot looking woman in a wig and girdle, once you get beneath the surface, it does not deliver what you hoped for.>> Bingo! Even with a working Yeti, I'll take Big Thunder over EE any day of the week.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Forget the concept of 'story', which KS tackles to obviously a degree of success that can be debated, but what it succeeds at is taking guests far away to another place, has thrills (in this case up close and personal views of wildlife in a natural setting), is LONG and can be enjoyed equally by those guests who are 7, 37 or 77.>> I wish they would drop the poachers storyline all together and somehow get more animals into the last section of the ride. KS's forced "story" keeps it form reaching perfection.
