Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Same with WS... Love it to death, I have spent all day there (EPCOT only trips are amazing.) but when in a theme park, I want to ride more than 3 rides. Good thing FW is there. >> Yea. I can hang out in WS for a good long time, but only if I'm with friends having a few drinks. Other than that, it,s go in, walk around, shop a little, hit AA, and leave.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<DAK needs to be explored. Go out, and ride the tram in the parking lot if you need excitement.>> Agreed, and DAK is much better than WS in this respect, IMO. WS is great, but very little has changed in the years that it's been opened. DAK, however, is always different due to the animals. You never see the same things twice.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I worry when even the smart fanbois would rather ride 'rides' than take in the entirety of a theme park experience.>> Because that's the main focus of a theme park, Spirit. In my opinion, the rest is icing on the cake. but without the rides, me and a very large precentage of the guests wouldn't be there.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I guess I phrased it wrong when I said thin shallacking. I would actually prefer KS without the uber-contrived storyline. I think it would have been better with a stronger more informative spiel about the problems being faced on the Preserves and African wildlife. Kind of a real live version of the True Life Adventures series. >> Exactly!
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >> Yea. I can hang out in WS for a good long time, but only if I'm with friends having a few drinks. Other than that, it,s go in, walk around, shop a little, hit AA, and leave.<<< Yep, same here. Gotta hit up Maelstrom, too.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>Because that's the main focus of a theme park, Spirit. In my opinion, the rest is icing on the cake. but without the rides, me and a very large precentage of the guests wouldn't be there.<< Agreed, and often the icing is the best part. But it's like the FLE...All style, needs some substance in the form of rides. Luckily, WS has a good mix of both, but it needs another draw.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<Gotta hit up Maelstrom, too.>> Maelstorm tends to be a toss up for me. I'm usually not in WS until late, and if the line's long I don't bother with it. Besides, the...uh...views in Norway are preferable to the trolls. Haha.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^^ Agreed. But Maelstrom is just one of those rides for me. It has a good atmosphere. Would love to see it freshened up.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<But Maelstrom is just one of those rides for me. It has a good atmosphere. Would love to see it freshened up.>> I agree. I think Maelstrom used to be one of those rides, but then its technology really fell behind the times. It's AAs(other than the trolls) just don't look believable at all. They're very Peter Pan's Flight-esque, but it doesn't work in the realistic Norwegian setting.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Yep, it looks a little *too* retro these days. I would really hope that the Norway Pavilion gets it's overhaul soon, it would help.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I would really hope that the Norway Pavilion gets it's overhaul soon, it would help. >> Other than a refurb to Maelstrom, all it needs is for the Princesses to GTFO of the Akershus(I didn't spell that right, I'm sure). Other than that, I think it's time for Germany or Italy(but preferably Germany) to get their rides.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer Don't forget the film! And YES!! GTFO Princesses! LMAO! Had a great dinner in there in 2000..and the next time I was there, it was so dumbed down.. And yes, I'd love to see a German River ride....Would be a great unique plus to EPCOT.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<And yes, I'd love to see a German River ride....Would be a great unique plus to EPCOT.>> I can only imagine how much greater WS would be if it had gotten all of it's original attractions. Rhine River Cruise Italy's boat ride Meet the World Ugh.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I know. It hurts. EPCOT would really be a full park, if that were so.
Originally Posted By dshyates "Nope that isn't the reason which is why DAK isn't a clone of Busch Gardens. The motivation behind DAK had nothing to do with a need or desire to out-do Busch in Tampa." No offense, but I'm not buying it. Disney hasn't built anything in the US since the mid 80s that isn't a direct response to local compatition. Pleasure Island was built because of Church Street St. MGM because of Universal Studios Florida, DAK because of Busch Gardens Tampa. And it doesn't stop with TDO. DCA I designed to capture the market from it 3 closest cometitors, Knott's, Universal, and Magic Mountain. That is one of the main reason DCA turned out to be a major thematic clusterf***.
Originally Posted By xrayvision Here's a review of Epcot's EO 2.0 show, comparing it to DL's version: <a href="http://micechat.com/forums/walt-disney-world-resort/139600-captain-eo-signs-up.html" target="_blank">http://micechat.com/forums/wal...-up.html</a> Anyways, WDW actually (I can't believe I'm about to actually say this) got the better EO treatment. It's like EO Tribute 2.0 without the annoying "Tribute" in the title, a beautiful sparkling new lobby (haven't seen the pre-show area/pre-show yet), and more effects during the show. It also looks like they removed the weird blue tint from the digital curtain. The only thing lacking is the entrance sign, which is cardboard cutout compared to DL's beautiful neon signage.
Originally Posted By xrayvision Epcot is utilizing HISTA’s floor motion system for EO 2.0. The movement is more subtle than the floor movement used in DL EO 2.0: <a href="http://www.mouseinfo.com/forums/walt-disney-world/92090-eo-flop-epcot-2.html" target="_blank">http://www.mouseinfo.com/forum...t-2.html</a> Note from the twitterverse: >>Quote: EO's floor bouncing has been toned down in the Epcot version per guest feedback, as stated by Epcot management<<.
Originally Posted By MPierce >>>Bringing back EO will do more harm than good IMO. Unless the profits from EO merch are going straight to an account specifically for an Imagination refurb.<<< >> It's something new, and that's needed in WDW when we don't have a ton of new attractions opening up. New, being the operative word, of course. << Coming in 2011. Sony introduces it's new line-up of 19 inch back and white TV's!
Originally Posted By MPierce >> Agreed, and DAK is much better than WS in this respect, IMO. WS is great, but very little has changed in the years that it's been opened. << I never get bored with beauty, and the classic architecture that is WS.
Originally Posted By MPierce >> <<I guess I phrased it wrong when I said thin shallacking. I would actually prefer KS without the uber-contrived storyline. I think it would have been better with a stronger more informative spiel about the problems being faced on the Preserves and African wildlife. Kind of a real live version of the True Life Adventures series. >> << >> Exactly! << I want to entertain guest, and give them a completely different experience. It's nadazu.
