Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>Very funny, EE!<< I try. Love all the quips and quotes they had.
Originally Posted By dshyates "I remember seeing EO during the '80s. It was the very first thing I saw at EPCOT that I hated. I remember thinking to myself how awful I thought it was while leaving the theater. I'm not at all happy to see it return." When I saw it in '86 I thought the same thing. It was one of the first thing Disney did that I thought was really horrible. Sooo, just to see if I was just being a snarky college kid, I went to see it this afternoon. Nope, I was not wrong. The show is really just horrible.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I find that there is no middle ground on EO. LOL. You love it or hate it.
Originally Posted By magnet MJ turns the supreme leader (who looks a lot like the borg queen) into Anjelica Huston. Apparently, that's what his "gift" does. Now, that's a spoiler on just soooo many levels.
Originally Posted By magnet It's an example of how you can bring together three great people: MJ, Lucas, and Coppola and STILL produce utter crap. Another example: Put together Bryan Adams, Sting, and Rod Stewart for a song! Great Idea? What do you get? All for love. Horrible.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer ^ Now THAT I agree with. Sting should have just stayed with the Police...
Originally Posted By leobloom >> It's an example of how you can bring together three great people: MJ, Lucas, and Coppola and STILL produce utter crap. << The Miami Heat are destined to have a similar fate. Probably not, but I couldn't resist when you mentioned bringing together three talented people.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer >>>>The Miami Heat are destined to have a similar fate.<<<< I doubt that. Or maybe I am just a bit excited for my hometown.
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<The Miami Heat are destined to have a similar fate.>> I had to laugh at that last night. The NBA just keeps getting crappier and crappier.
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I'm not very big on sports...but...what's the big deal? We payed for a good player. Isn't that the nature of the business?
Originally Posted By HokieSkipper <<I'm not very big on sports...but...what's the big deal? We payed for a good player. Isn't that the nature of the business?>> No, the NBA is just a joke of a league. Terrible product, and it's gotten even worse with 3 of the best playuers on one team. There's literally no reason to watch the NBA next year(not that there really was before).
Originally Posted By EPCOT Explorer I think there's a pretty good reason for me to watch.... We will be winning!! LOL.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<The last day was June 30, 2002. So you were on the money when you guessed 8-9 years. It didn't actually get bulldozered until 2006. It was a pleasure to flick that switch. >> I thought so. Was it popular in its early years? <<Meet the World was at best clumsy and at worse ignorant. It was such a pigeon-eyed view of Japanese history and simply jumping from the Meiji Restoration to modern day Japan was to underplay the Japan of 1940s. It could and should have been handled far better. Glossing over the truth just wasn't the right option. Japan may have a nice big unused show building but Meet the World wasn't the right product for Epcot even in '82.>> I agree based upon the glossing over history idea. I know folks say the AA does that, but I really don't agree. It may not focus on the bad, but it doesn't ignore it. I can't imagine a show on Japan's history where you simply leave out WWII and the fact it is the only nation to have had automic weapons used on it. And in the early 80s there were plenty of WWII vets who were around and kicking (hell, there still are) and I'm sure wouldn't have enjoyed the show. I think an AA show that focused more on the culture, traditions and places of the nation might ... and I say might ... have worked. But it is a shame that a show building sits there 28 years later with nothing in it (for guests).
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Awww....thanks...Spirit...? You actually have more pins than I, so you can't talk! ;-)>> Maybe, but a vast majority have been gifts or bought at vast discounts (local outlet is having another 99 cent pin removal, so we can add more vinyl sale!). I've likely bought 50 pins in my life at full price, which I still think is too many, but they've all been for special reasons/events/days. <<But yes, profits in TDR. I'll help. >> Good. Spirit needs all the cash he can get his hands on! Is a 225% premium on pins too much?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<Spirit, you must try Tivoli Gardens next time you are in europe. It gave Walt a lot of his ideas and is more true to it's original mission than Disney is now.>> I'll go, but only with you as my tour guide! (it's always been on my 'must see' list!)
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> But seriously, there's no shame in getting there at opening. The opening show was fun. And honestly, crowds didn't pick up until 11 or so. << <<Nobody is saying it's shameful to get there at opening, and leave at closing. It's just the commando attitude that some folks use to go about it.>> Hey, I thought I was saying it's shameful! I really can't recall the last time I did that at a Disney park ... yes, I can ... it was my first visit to HKDL! But even a park that I really love, like say DL, I'm very willing to get there at noon, leave for 2-3 hours in the late afternoon and then stay until 1 a.m. If a park is new (or new to you) I can understand a commando attitude, but not when one has been dozens or hundreds of times ... <<If you don't take the time to look around, and enjoy you are truly missing Disney. Now I know this doesn't apply to you nor most folks here at LP.>> Agreed. Just talked to a friend who is visiting Sea World San Antonio for the first time today ... he said the attractions are great, but the theming is very seriously lacking ... and that's comparing it to the other SW parks in O-Town and San Diego. The reason Disney invented the theme park was because the whole was more important than the individual items. Story and immersion were what was important. When someone goes to MK and literally runs around all day just mindlessly doing 'the rides' they justify the Walmarting of the place because it says the Disney Details aren't important. Riding Splash Mountain six times in a day and Mansion 11 times and Peter Pan four times ... that's what's important. <<A lot of very good people put their heart, and soul into designing everything we see there. Not just the rides. To overlook all the beautiful details, and architecture, and planning that went into WDW, and not take it all in is a slap in the face of the generations of people that have spent so much effort to offer top notch family entertainment.WDW should be though of more like an art exhibit rather than just a theme park.>> Very well put. Although I'd also say that simply walking around in search of details (instead of coming upon them naturally) and eschewing attractions and entertainment is just as bad as ignoring everything but 'the rides'.
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 >> Thanks, No.1, for making fun of the brat, so I didn't have to! >> <<He left himself wide open for that shot.>> Yes, he did. And I'm glad you did what had to be done. >> I think there's a lot of shame in getting out of bed before 11 unless you are being paid a great deal of money to do so. << <<Truer words of wisdom have never been spoken.>> Was up at 11 today ... but didn't fall out of bed until noon. Is it lunchtime yet?
Originally Posted By Spirit of 74 <<The NBA just keeps getting crappier and crappier.>> Pretty much. And it just gets more predictable. I'll bet that the Heat wins 2-3 titles in the next five years (the length of the contracts the trio of mega-stars will sign). Boston and Orlando will be the only teams to give them any trouble in the East. The Lakers will still be tough to beat. But it's all so predictable ...
Originally Posted By bobbelee9 We did the Kim Possible thing. It was fun but we ran around Japan without seeing anything but the clues. So we didn't do any of the other countries. Did come across lots of kids playing KP but I was the only old lady.
