Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<I get so jealous of those who get the opportunity to see the new parks.>> Eh...you're not missing much, they all start to look the same after awhile ;D. I do have ONE question about Tarzan Island to Lee or anyone that can answer: Is it JUST the Treehouse?? I would assume it would be a little like TSI with other stuff like caves, trails, bridges and etc, right? I just can't imagine taking those cool little rafts all the way over to the island just climb up the tree?? That would suck......hard!!
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 I think what Hans meant was that TDL was not really original at opening. Even though WDI was going for some bold revisions of lands and attractions, OLC wanted everything exactly like the American parks, so they really did get a homogonized park with attraction facades and areas looking like direct lifts from DL or WDW. I think Hans was just speaking cosmetically. At least that is different about Hong Kong, besides Main Street, the other lands do have their own identities (despite the homages to other attractions/lands within).
Originally Posted By WorldDisney ^^^Good point. But yeah, something people don't know about the TDL park, they purposely WANTED the same stuff there, to give people a sense they were visiting the SAME park in America. This was at a time when a plane trip to L.A. was probably around 30,000 yen (or $3,000), so they wanted to make the guest feel that they had the REAL DL in their backyard. It wasn't about money. 20 years later and TDS clearly proves that issue. As for HKDL, I don't know WHAT it's about, but it would've been nice to not leave it so sparse, clones or no clones.
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 We'll see. I think something as simple as a tunnel under the Adventureland Berm with a sign saying, 2007 Area Expansion, with concept art of a Big Thunder, Haunted Mansion, and Pirates would have been a big deal. Man I hope they dont put that Raging Spirits in there!
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "something people don't know about the TDL park, they purposely WANTED the same stuff there, to give people a sense they were visiting the SAME park in America." Yeah, that's what I was getting at. Disney actually did want to go different with TDL, but OLC had the "American" experience in mind. That certainly wasn't due to budget constraints either!
Originally Posted By leemac <<The park was probably empty because it was during their preview days.>> It was before the rehearsal days so we only got to ride Space and Buzz that day. Sorry for the lack of JC pix but the boats weren't even cycling that week. <<It makes me more grateful for those like "Lee" who take such incredible photos that we still get a feeling of being there even if we can't be physically.>> Thanks for the kind words and hope you continue to enjoy the HKDL updates! Lee
Originally Posted By leemac WorldDisney there is PLENTY of room on the island but only the treehouse for now. It is huge.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN >>they (Disney parks) all start to look the same after awhile<< I wholeheartedly disagree on this. Each and every Disneyland-style park has a unique feel to each own, whether be for good or for the worst. >>something people don't know about the TDL park, they purposely WANTED the same stuff there, to give people a sense they were visiting the SAME park in America<< If only OLC knew how bad the same looking park at WDW now looks, they would do anything possible not to emulate it anymore... besides, most everything that has been added to TDL since opening has been quite unique to their park, making it an unique park on it's own.
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 "WorldDisney there is PLENTY of room on the island but only the treehouse for now. It is huge." Oh that's too bad. I was assuming that there was some pirate caves like at Paris. Maybe like Tom Sawyer Island opening a year later, these additions will debut soon after the park opening. A wrecked ship to explore, with some attached pirate tresure caves or skull rock would be a great way to get people hyped for a Pirates of the Carribean attraction that could appear across the river. I want to see the whole sandy, palm tree covered beach a poster mentioned earlier. That would be pretty cool and would bring some variety to the Adventureland region. And the fortress structure could interact with the boats for a new scene on the Jungle Cruise. I really want to see that shoreline around the river, because I am unsure if I am picturing it correctly. I keep thinking of the Rivers of America but with Jungle surrounding it, is this how it is? Is most of the river front walkway, like at Disneyland? Does the actual ride ever go really deep and out of site, aside from the valley of the gods moment? Would it be possible for additional attractions to be perched right on the rivers edge? Sorry for all of the questions, but I am really getting excited for this park.
Originally Posted By leemac <<Maybe like Tom Sawyer Island opening a year later, these additions will debut soon after the park opening. >> The island has been reserved for future development but nothing for 2006. You can see about 1/3rd of the whole river from Adventureland and the walkway snakes towards and away from the river but you can always see the Treehouse. I can tell you that I would be amazed if we ever see a Frontierland in this park. I just can't see them replicating the Rivers of America after having already shelved those plans for this new Jungle Cruise. Lee
Originally Posted By RandySavage There could still be a Frontierland without a Rivers of America. The conceived "Lewis & Clark" version of Grizzly Rapids could give the water element. Then add Big Thunder Mountain, Country Bears, a fort, and Haunted Mansion (if it doesn't go in Adventureland)
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 Thanks again for the info Leemac. I think it would nice if they added some additional watercraft to the river area. They already have the Jungle Cruise Boats and the Rafts to Tom Sawyer Island. Some Native Canoes or outriggers could be a lot of fun. Rides don’t get much more interactive than the canoes. Let them shoot a separate canal from the Jungle Cruise (so they have a shorter trip, like maybe they just lap the island) which goes by some additional wildlife or native encampments. A wave machine that would allow the riders to safely coast back to the shore would be really awesome. Launch from the busy walkway and wave to the guests of Adventureland as you head into the dark heart of jungle. Beware the dangerous Jungle Cruise skippers and Tarzan rafts as you eventually shoot down a small brook that cuts Tarzan's island in two. Slowly make your way back here, while keeping your eyes out for snakes, and other dangerous wildlife in these close jungle quarters. Make your way across the canal, while dodging those abandoned vessels and wrecked ships that dot these shallows. They were too large to make the voyage. Shoot the rapids and come back into the main river, for a thrilling ride back to shore as your outrigger catches a wave and surfs right up to the sandy shores and docking area. It could be another new twist on an old classic. I also believe that we will never see a Frontierland here. All of those attractions can be repurposed to this jungle/Adventureland environment.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Maybe once they open the ferry boat to Kowloon or HK Island, they can add it to the list of park attractions.. what do you think?
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 It only counts as Hong Kong Disney property if a "hidden" Mickey appears at least 3 times in a ten foot area.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney >>they (Disney parks) all start to look the same after awhile<< <<I wholeheartedly disagree on this. Each and every Disneyland-style park has a unique feel to each own, whether be for good or for the worst.>> Dude, I was KIDDING . Oh yeah, each one certainly feel different. DLP will never feel like DL just like DL will never feel completely like TDL. Yeah, its all the little unique differences that make you feel like you are somewhere else despite the fact they all have a castle and a Main Street .
Originally Posted By WorldDisney <<WorldDisney there is PLENTY of room on the island but only the treehouse for now. It is huge.>> Thanks Lee . But, once again, that sucks....hard!!!! *Sigh*, maybe they will add caves and trails by phase 3 . Can't wait!!!
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 I hope phase 3 begins somewhere around Spring 2006. Seriously. Let's get the ball rolling on this place. And by the by, is there an Adventureland train station, or does it only stop on Main Street and at the back of Fantasyland?
