Originally Posted By FerretAfros I was wondering about something. Since the Jungle Cruise is on a track, do you think that anybody will notice. In the other parks, the boats dissappear pretty quickly, so nobody can really tell that they are all taking the exact same path. On the ROA's, although they are in plain sight for much of the trip, the boats don't pass by very often. Do you think that people will catch on, with the boats going so far in full view, and boats going by ever 45 seconds or so? I just think it will be too obvious. It would be cool if there was a spot where the track split a few ways, and each boat took a different path for a while, and then they joined back togeather before any of the real show scenes.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney According to the website, only TL and FL is mentioned for DLRR stops. I'm sorry guys, but its SOOO many of these little pet peeves that irritates me about this park. But I know, new unknowing Chinese won't know a thing, blah, blah, blah.
Originally Posted By TDLFAN Rejoice in the fact that they will serve some killer fried rice somewhere...
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 What are you talking about? The two stations? Disneyland was like that for years. I am looking forward to an Adventureland station that drops you off in the very far back corner of the expanded land so guests can head straight to the nearby gold fields of Big Thunder or the Hunting Lodge dubbed the Haunted Mansion. It is very likely that in the next 15 years the rails would have to be moved, adjusted, and widened a few times for expansion, so a new station could easily be placed in during one of those down times. Ferret, it would be cool if they had multiple tracks. It would be even easier if the large stretches of water had no track at all, and then the boats would be gently guided to the rails for the tighter portions (this would just be a bigger version of what they do to the Splash Mountain logs at Disneyland. There is a whole lot of freeflow room in the flume right after the second lift. The boats have motors and guides, so I dont see any reason why this would be unfeasible.
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 This land sure seems huge, but has anyone else noticed this park is the same size as its two hotel grounds put together? Picture courtesy of TDLFAN's update, which I am looking through right now, thank you for the great pics. <a href="http://albums.photo.epson.com/j/ViewPhoto?u=4079221&a=31856556&p=72495399&f=0" target="_blank">http://albums.photo.epson.com/ j/ViewPhoto?u=4079221&a=31856556&p=72495399&f=0</a>
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "Disneyland was like that for years." DL opened with Main Street and Frontierland, if I'm not mistaken. By the time the Viewliner was added (in '56?) there was a station in TL to match that of the Viewliner. The Frontierland station was moved, and renamed the New Orleans Square Station when the new land opened. Fantasyland didn't get a station until Videolopolis opened in the mid-80's. It was later renamed the Fantasyland station, and after Toontown opened, it was renamed a second time. DL spent only a year or two (if that long) with only two stations, before a third was added. The Magic Kingdom in WDW only had a Main Street and Frontierland station until Mickey's Starland opened on the site of Mickey's Birthdayland. I geuss that went a long time with only two stations, but that RR has always been usless anyway.
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 <a href="http://www.disneylandtoday.com/Railroad/rrstations.htm" target="_blank">http://www.disneylandtoday.com /Railroad/rrstations.htm</a> The above says the Fantasyland Station was added in 56. I was mistaken. That was quite a long ride from Frontierland to Main Street.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney LOL, guys this is no longer 1955!! You forgot to mention that DL didn't have a hotel up either until MUCH later, but that certainly didn't stop this park from having one . I just wish people stop comparing developments 50+ years based on a company at the time that had to fight tooth and nail to bring their creation to life with the finances they had versus the 500 fortune company today that is able to build the biggest manmade recreational resort in the world twice the size of Manhantan and parks all over the world. In other words, if they wanted, they could have found a way to build that other station....somehow .
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 The Disneyland hotel was up within the first year. Disney got a piece of the action. Walt certainly wanted one, but I dont think he understood how big of a cash cow it was going to be.
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 And I think in this case this history is somewhat important. You have to admit many parts of this park look like the Disneyland on Bizarro World. Just check out the old Tobacco Indian on Main Street to see what I'm talking about. Look at his face. They may very well have taken these kind of wierd tidbits into consideration, afterall they dont cost any extra money, yet the developers of the park could look smart to their bosses for insinuating things.
Originally Posted By WorldDisney Okay, fine, but I'm still not sure what that has to do with TL not getting a train station? So, DL didn't have another station in 1955. They also didn't have SM, Buzz, Philharmagic and so on. Also, Jungle Cruise is completely different to the original. We're not talking about just cute references to the past, but things that could ease traffic flow a little, create an extra to stop and etc. But, its not a HUGE issue or anything, just another unnessecary shortcut in a park FULL of them.
Originally Posted By BrigmanMT 2 I am sure they have plans to establish new stations once growth has occured (especailly in Adventureland). I have always wanted to see an exotic outpost station. The rolling stock I have seen from this park might not fit in with the theme, but the actual station and locomotive could look pretty cool pulling up near a Big Thunder Zimbabwe Diamond/Gold mine or passing a stately Manor/Hunting Lodge. With all of these areas already marked out for future development, I am sure they have a good idea where a new station might show up in the near future. And I think guest flow may not actually benefit from an additional station. The ride from Main Street to Fantasyland is going to be the longest in the park. I think the overall park ride time is a bigger issue now than the concern of bringing guests into the far corners. Can the railroad be viewed from anywhere inside Tomorrowland? Like at WDW?
Originally Posted By FerretAfros "The rolling stock I have seen from this park might not fit in with the theme,..." Never stopped them from building a station in Tomorrowland. : ) I believe that the train can be seen from TL, since it passes just behind the Autopia overpass where the fountains will be. If it can't be seen now, it will become visible when they add a tunnel to get to the Autopia station.
Originally Posted By gurgitoy2 "Fantasyland didn't get a station until Videolopolis opened in the mid-80's" Yeah, like a few others have said, this is incorrect. Fantasyland station opened in 1956. Also, although the Disneyland Hotel was not owned by Disney at the time, it was the official hotel from opening day. Also, I disagree about HKDL not getting a frontierland just because the Rivers of Adventure was built. This version of Frontierland could be a departure from the rest and not have a large river. It could, in turn, reflect the standard sizes of the other Jungle Cruises around the world, and be a smaller river...maybe that Lewis and Clark raft ride like others have mentioned?
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Hans I'm not sure I understand your comment here. What do you mean?" When it opened essentially every feature of TDL park was a virtual carbon copy of an existing feature in one of the two existing U.S. Magic Kingdom parks (ie: Cinderella's Castle from WDW and Space Mountain from DL) right down to the placement of many of the restaurants and shops. Apparently this was done to save on costs and research found that the Japanese expected experiences identical to what they would have in the U.S. I believe that at the time the only major unique to Tokyo features were that the DLRR traveled around only half the park, the enclosed Main Street, and the "Meet The World" attraction in Tomorrowland. Though quite lovely, the HKDL park strikes me as being similar in that there is very little that is unique about it.
Originally Posted By leemac <<the DLRR traveled around only half the park>> Well around one land for legal reasons.
Originally Posted By Hans Reinhardt Two lands: Adventureland and Frontierland. What were the legal reasons?
Originally Posted By trekkeruss <<What were the legal reasons?>> I assume we are discussing the railroad at TDL. It only has one station because to add more would make it a transportation system, subject to all the regulations of actual Japanese trains.
Originally Posted By leemac Hans, trekkeruss is right. That is why the Disney Resort Line at TDR is a fee-charging service too as it is deemed public transport. I would argue that the railroad only really goes around Frontierland with the station in Adventureland but it is all a moot point really. )) <<I believe that the train can be seen from TL, since it passes just behind the Autopia overpass where the fountains will be. If it can't be seen now, it will become visible when they add a tunnel to get to the Autopia station.>> Hmm. The train tracks are a fair way back in TL. The Autopia loading station would be inside the tracks and there won't be any need for a tunnel or anything.
